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On April 13 2011 10:56 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 09:13 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
I've been playing as mordekaiser for a while now and I want your opinion on my build, keep in mind I'm only lvl 13 thus no rune or mastery setup added..
opening items:
x1 Elixir of fortitude
x6 hpot
main items:
Frozen mallet
warmogs
Heart of gold (!)
abyssal scepter
skill order:
R>W>Q>E
(Only getting E after W is maxed and Q is lvl 4) (2!)
(!) : From my experience, having 6 kills 0 deaths or even 8 kills 0 deaths, going back with about 2k gold, with heart of gold and 8 kills 1-2 death going back with 4k gold, can be explained further but should need to be.
(2!): Using W to keep my shield up as well as keeping a safe distance early on. Also to "spell kill" myself as I love pushing creep waves back as far as possible. What I mean by this is the cool down will keep you from using too much health meanwhile providing more damage then a R>E>Q>W skill lvl'ing or a R>Q>E>W, again I don't mind explaining further in detail if needed.
(?): This item provides an instant 140+ health once used which can save your skin if you remember it, not only that it'll keep your health higher for 4 minutes while also providing a damage boost.
Any suggestions or comments?
EDIT: forgot to add boots >.< Either sorcerers shoes or Ionian boots work with this build. this is what you do a) buy cheap ass armor runes. The REALLY cheap ones. b) put your masteries into 9/3/1 (3 in ap, 1 in smite, 4 in cd, and 1 in mag pen%), 3 in armor, and 1 in ghost c) ghost smite d) cloth armor + 5 pots, wriggles, triforce, merc treads, force of nature carry yourself to 1900 elo morde does not care for your math and science all he cares for es that he es always kill never die
Umm...few questions...
1: Morde's AP ratio is pretty bad why invest in it? (unless you've been fed enough to get a deathcap then the game is already over)
2: Why armour? All you need is last whisper and your essentially back to square 1...
3: I find force of nature's heath regen factor to be pretty weak in comparison to just having more health, why do you use it?
4: Why invest in smite when the ignite/ulti combo is just plain better?
...srs troll means srs bsns...
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Caller is a legit 1800 mordekaiser main. Try it out yo.
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Caller, is Wriggles still worth it after the nerf?
1. because .6 AP/level or whatever is going to be more effective than 2% critchance
2. because by the time the enemy carry has a LW you have already pushed down all their turrets by yourself
3. Morde loves health regen and movespeed. And by Morde I mean Caller.
But honestly, I can vouch for the effectiveness of this. Q is a REALLY good skill, as is W. Q + Triforce is a huge nuke with a great chance to slow. Morde is heavily positioning-dependent and doesn't really need health if he has armor and mr. Sustained phys. damage is his bigger problem early game.
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i disagree with #1, crit chance is so good. lucky crits win lanes, an extra 3 ap does not.
the changes to how crit/dodge chance works, combined with riot nerfing cdr items and ghost, is why i now believe 9 offense > 9 utility on pretty much anyone who goes 21 defense. i also think flash is better than ghost if you're already stacking ms (fon, triforce) but hey i dont play morde.
as an aside i'm glad riot continues to pump out awful patches so i can stay away from this game more easily 
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On April 13 2011 11:09 Psycho{Szerano wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 10:56 Caller wrote:On April 13 2011 09:13 Psycho{Szerano wrote:
I've been playing as mordekaiser for a while now and I want your opinion on my build, keep in mind I'm only lvl 13 thus no rune or mastery setup added..
opening items:
x1 Elixir of fortitude
x6 hpot
main items:
Frozen mallet
warmogs
Heart of gold (!)
abyssal scepter
skill order:
R>W>Q>E
(Only getting E after W is maxed and Q is lvl 4) (2!)
(!) : From my experience, having 6 kills 0 deaths or even 8 kills 0 deaths, going back with about 2k gold, with heart of gold and 8 kills 1-2 death going back with 4k gold, can be explained further but should need to be.
(2!): Using W to keep my shield up as well as keeping a safe distance early on. Also to "spell kill" myself as I love pushing creep waves back as far as possible. What I mean by this is the cool down will keep you from using too much health meanwhile providing more damage then a R>E>Q>W skill lvl'ing or a R>Q>E>W, again I don't mind explaining further in detail if needed.
(?): This item provides an instant 140+ health once used which can save your skin if you remember it, not only that it'll keep your health higher for 4 minutes while also providing a damage boost.
Any suggestions or comments?
EDIT: forgot to add boots >.< Either sorcerers shoes or Ionian boots work with this build. this is what you do a) buy cheap ass armor runes. The REALLY cheap ones. b) put your masteries into 9/3/1 (3 in ap, 1 in smite, 4 in cd, and 1 in mag pen%), 3 in armor, and 1 in ghost c) ghost smite d) cloth armor + 5 pots, wriggles, triforce, merc treads, force of nature carry yourself to 1900 elo morde does not care for your math and science all he cares for es that he es always kill never die Umm...few questions... 1: Morde's AP ratio is pretty bad why invest in it? (unless you've been fed enough to get a deathcap then the game is already over) 2: Why armour? All you need is last whisper and your essentially back to square 1... 3: I find force of nature's heath regen factor to be pretty weak in comparison to just having more health, why do you use it? 4: Why invest in smite when the ignite/ulti combo is just plain better? ...srs troll means srs bsns...
1. q cant crit, q uses ap.
2. es because you are jungling
3. es because mordekaiser only weak early game against magic burst, so fon magic resist make you take no magic damage, also movement speed
4. es because you are jungling
huehuehue always kill never die farm jungle all day gank at 6 with double buff kill tower carry team
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On April 13 2011 11:11 HazMat wrote:
Caller is a legit 1800 mordekaiser main. Try it out yo.
Yup. Played this build in about 80 normal games and brought my W/L ratio almost up to almost .75, it is legit.
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#1 morde build:
magic pene reds and quints
armor yellow, mres blue
build: cloth armor 5 pot - sorc boots - revolver - guise - gunblade - rylai - FoN - GA
+ Show Spoiler +you can actually kill squishy bruisers and carries so easily if they get in melee range with this build
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On April 13 2011 20:40 Iplaythings wrote:#100000 morde build: magic pene reds and quints armor yellow, mres blue build: cloth armor 5 pot - sorc boots - revolver - guise - gunblade - rylai - FoN - GA + Show Spoiler +you can actually kill squishy bruisers and carries so easily if they get in melee range with this build
you are much further away from brazil than I am
therefore, you are not #1 mordekaiser huehue
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On April 13 2011 23:41 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 20:40 Iplaythings wrote:#100000 morde build: magic pene reds and quints armor yellow, mres blue build: cloth armor 5 pot - sorc boots - revolver - guise - gunblade - rylai - FoN - GA + Show Spoiler +you can actually kill squishy bruisers and carries so easily if they get in melee range with this build you are much further away from brazil than I am therefore, you are not #1 mordekaiser huehue
however I am way closer to romania :D
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Mordekaiser is most positively the best tank in the game (possibly the easiest), So for you to think your all the best in the game. Well that's hard to decide. You just need to know the metagame very well to play him.
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On April 14 2011 02:00 Liquidspoison wrote:
Mordekaiser is most positively the best tank in the game (possibly the easiest), So for you to think your all the best in the game. Well that's hard to decide. You just need to know the metagame very well to play him.
wow, finally someone who knows how to play the game!
could you please tell us how to know the metagame very well so that I can play Mordekaiser? (I'm tired of playing lesser tanks)
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Well It's like this: tryndamere does a shit ton of physical damage and late game CRAZY crits and pretty high DPS. If you see something like a fed tryndamere get out your thorn mail. returning 30 percent of his crazy damage sounds pretty nice. plus your armor reduction that you should get i.e (rands omen). If someone is beating you in speed (ashe with boots of swiftness) get ryleighs to slow her and maybe even jungle and get the water buff. Just look at the Pros of other characters and find a key item to counter act it. Thorn mail pretty much solves all your problems. I don't play morde very much but he wins games by doing this. If theres an enemy anivia rush early null cloak and negatron cloak. Once you have a mega-shit-ton of health and resistance to everything the other team will probably just surrender. Remember the point of tanking is not to always have crazy damage out put but it's to soak up all the ultimates, and abilities so your team can come in and destroy.
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what if it's on summoner's rift? I can never seem to find a water buff there and even with rylai's I can never catch ashe to slow her? I would also like help countering Pantheon, as I think he's an imbalanced piece of shit since his Heartseeker Strike doesn't return damage with thornmail (such a crazy strong lategame carry,  ).
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I play pretty much only 3's but if Ashe is running your good. If you chase her she's most likely gonna stun you at her turret or have her entire team gank you as you cross the line of battle. For pantheon if he's targeting you then your doing your tank job. go health and armor and be careful in the lane. Can you describe to me the scenario you are in?
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sure, like 40 minutes into the game, I'm pushing mid vs. an ashe or trist or something and then Pantheon jumps on my with his ult and using his E move, even if I have Thornmail, I just die (if thornmail wasn't bugged to not return HSS damage, I'm pretty sure he would die first). I would get mad at bot lane for not calling mia, but that ult is so long range that they have no time to call it.
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This would be hard to decide, im assuming you have already low HP. The cool down on GSK is 150 / 135 / 120 seconds. What would be the best is when you know he has it to stay close the the turret. don't over extend, and be very careful. If you are playing a ranked and know the set up, try *cleanse/ghost*. Cleans will get you out of his W and ghost will get you out. Pantheon is a solid 1v1 champ and Mordes DPS can't take him at this time unless your super fed. Keep your eyes peeled on the mini map, and tell you team mate just to ping when they can't see him.
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So, I seem to remember SYDTKO saying on jiji's stream once that cloth+5pot is terrible and that bead+6pot is the only legitimate start on Mordekaiser...
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health regen is a lot better then that tiny bit of armor. Agree
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