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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 12 2010 20:29 GMT
#21
Haven't played against lots of Twitches, but the range difference is quite large and twitch is equally squishy, so Ashe might have a shot against him. Not sure though, since Twitch has all those useful skills...
You can win against Anivia if you open Boots + 3 HP pots.
I guess you could win against say Amumu...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 20:31 GMT
#22
She beats Twitch.
She beats a lot of heroes, or gives a lot of heroes trouble (like MF).
Anivia kinda trashes on every ranged carry at 6 so that's kind of a moot point.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 12 2010 20:33 GMT
#23
honestly, who doesn't Anivia trash at level 6? I find it so infuriating that she has a free double damage nuke whenever she wants at 6, it's stupid.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 20:35:18
November 12 2010 20:34 GMT
#24
On November 13 2010 05:33 Mogwai wrote:
honestly, who doesn't Anivia trash at level 6? I find it so infuriating that she has a free double damage nuke whenever she wants at 6, it's stupid.


lol I hit ~900 AP in a normal q last night and me E was doing over 1900 damage. Hilarious.

No doubt one of the best AP carries in the game. 400 per sec R, 1900 per 3 seconds E, and ~900 damage if I land Q stun.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 12 2010 20:36 GMT
#25
seriously, can you name a hero who, at level 6, is like, "psh, anivia, W/E BRO I GOT THIS EZPZLMNSQZ"
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 20:37:28
November 12 2010 20:37 GMT
#26
Yes. Kassadin, and probably Malzahar.

Edit:
Eep this is an Ashe thread :[
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 12 2010 21:04 GMT
#27
Coincidentally ashe frost arrow triggers anivias E doublehit, so theyre a fun lane combo
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 21:24:59
November 12 2010 21:23 GMT
#28
On November 13 2010 05:31 Southlight wrote:
She beats a lot of heroes, or gives a lot of heroes trouble (like MF).


Could you explain how exactly? From my experience MF wins any straight up fights with Q W E and her higher base stats, and the 50 range advantage isn't going to cut it.

(well I occasionally beat MFs, but those are pretty weak imo. Currently whenever I pick Ashe my team gets 2 more ranged DPS so I haven't played her much since the MF nerf though)
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 12 2010 21:28 GMT
#29
you never straight up fight as ashe. vs. MF, you get to deny her imba movespeed bullshit by just staying the fuck away from your ranged creeps and vollying her if she tries to fight you I think.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#30
On November 13 2010 06:28 Mogwai wrote:
you never straight up fight as ashe. vs. MF, you get to deny her imba movespeed bullshit by just staying the fuck away from your ranged creeps and vollying her if she tries to fight you I think.

And then you have to stay 700+ range away from her until Volley is up in... 16-20 seconds?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 12 2010 21:37 GMT
#31
you dance around and punish her last hits to keep strut down I think.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 21:47 GMT
#32
Ashe is stronger at level 6 because ECA is OP. That's how.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 12 2010 22:20 GMT
#33
On November 13 2010 06:47 Southlight wrote:
Ashe is stronger at level 6 because ECA is OP. That's how.

And 1 Cleanse/Flash/miss because of Strut later?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 12 2010 23:26 GMT
#34
On November 13 2010 07:20 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 06:47 Southlight wrote:
Ashe is stronger at level 6 because ECA is OP. That's how.

And 1 Cleanse/Flash/miss because of Strut later?


Nothing? You would still have your ghost/flash up if she tries to counter ult, and she's NEVER going to catch you without a red buff(even then you can volley her approach). I wouldn't go as far as to say Ashe 'wins' vs MF, but she doesn't lose as bad as some other ranged carries because once volley gets down to the 12-8-4 cooldowns her effective range is amazing.
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
November 13 2010 01:47 GMT
#35
i dont mid nearly enough. i just did an ashe v ashe mid and it was intense. i thought i was being smart and getting shield first, but she got boots first so i was just like MEH. and they also had a jungle eve. thank god the opposing ashe was horribad and kept pushing the creeps. so we ended up tied CS.

i much prefer being kass and just pressing Q to win solo lanes...
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 02:46:26
November 13 2010 02:45 GMT
#36
Ashe can't beat twitch early game. Unless you land a lot of crits and volleys. Ashe has to play defensive vs like every mid pre 6.

I guess Ashe can start being aggressive once she hits 6 with her ult and land kills.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 13 2010 04:03 GMT
#37
yeah i dont think ashe beats twitch. Also twitches tend to take cleanse a lot (good bye level 6 advan.)
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 13 2010 08:04 GMT
#38
On November 13 2010 05:04 gtrsrs wrote:
honestly, can some "high elo" player tell me who ashe even beats in lane? i just feel like she has nothing going for her in lane at ALL. early volley is good but pushes the lane, her passive is great for the first shot but i can't see her trading hits with teemo (poison and blind), MF (damage stacking), kog maw (w, lol), twitch (poison), ezrael (teleport). i can't see her beating annie or anivia due to their burst, i can't see her beating xin zhao because of his burst and regen, i can't see her beating mordekaiser unless she's extremely aggressive early and he's dumb, etc etc. i could be way wrong though because i'm bad at ashe. who does she BEAT in lane? or has she slowly been relegated to a duo-lane babysittee, since her arrow isn't even that reliable or important early game

I have positive winratio vs misfortune (as in I havent lost yet, but I managed to make it 2-1 or 1-0 3-4 times I think) Ashe can outpoke MF as long as double up doesnt hit you too much, though I cant max E more than 1 level in this case.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 13 2010 11:17 GMT
#39
Had to redpot vs Pre-nerf AD Ezreal (also AP Ezreal pre-nerf).

I think Ashe should beat Twitch but I haven't run across that in ages, + I don't play Ashe anymore.

The point is more than if you play her properly it's hard to LOSE the lane, as mentioned before, and with ECA you're always a threat, especially if you're mid because you can gank in a fairly large radius around you provided you have decent accuracy against standing champs (ie. people doing dragon, golem, lizard).
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Jawa~
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States291 Posts
November 15 2010 06:47 GMT
#40
On November 13 2010 05:04 gtrsrs wrote:
honestly, can some "high elo" player tell me who ashe even beats in lane? i just feel like she has nothing going for her in lane at ALL. early volley is good but pushes the lane, her passive is great for the first shot but i can't see her trading hits with teemo (poison and blind), MF (damage stacking), kog maw (w, lol), twitch (poison), ezrael (teleport). i can't see her beating annie or anivia due to their burst, i can't see her beating xin zhao because of his burst and regen, i can't see her beating mordekaiser unless she's extremely aggressive early and he's dumb, etc etc. i could be way wrong though because i'm bad at ashe. who does she BEAT in lane? or has she slowly been relegated to a duo-lane babysittee, since her arrow isn't even that reliable or important early game


I am ~1550 ELO solo and Ashe is my favorite AD carry to play. I don't think she's the strongest but she's my favorite.

You just have to play smart with her to "beat" the lane. You have to realize that you are probably not going to get FB or anything stupid like that, but you can definitely outfarm and zone people.

Ashe is not going to go toe to toe with anyone except maybe Ezreal. But she can poke everyone else, and get almost every last hit on most waves. She's got long range and good survivability if you are smart about your lane and don't push stupidly.

She can match almost anyone mid, and only has trouble with people like Garen / Panth top lane.

The real power of Ashe is in teamfights. She has a constant slow, a stun, and long range. If you have a team that fights well and focuses well she's invaluable for her slow and DPS while staying away.
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