I've been on such a hot streak with Ashe. She was the champion I played and mained as when I first started out, but after I got a little better than just somebody who mindlessly autoattacked minions I moved onto champs like Anivia. Since then I've gotten really good at my spacing and timing after getting used to such a squishy slow champ, and have returned to Ashe finding that everything is translating extremely well for me.

I don't know if Ashe has gotten any significant buffs through the past updates but she feels so much stronger. I'm averaging around 5-10 kills and 15-25 assists every game. It feels pretty awesome being an ace on the team that motivates everybody's teamwork after nailing somebody with a perfectly timed Crystal Arrow.

Even if I lose I always do really well, so it's been a really satisfying couple of last games with her.

taintmachine

United States431 Posts

November 22 2010 22:02 GMT

#42

afaik, only changes to ashe that were significant enough to remember are the huge buff to bounty and the nerf to volley (i think they just made its spread much smaller)

O-ops

United States4236 Posts

November 23 2010 01:24 GMT

#43

On November 13 2010 05:36 Mogwai wrote:
seriously, can you name a hero who, at level 6, is like, "psh, anivia, W/E BRO I GOT THIS EZPZLMNSQZ"

I see your bird and raise you Sivir.

vanillapanda

United States6 Posts

November 25 2010 23:50 GMT

#44

Oh man, and now that I'm following spinesheathes build?

http://i.imgur.com/JPNsX.png

It should be illegal how much fun I'm having.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 26 2010 03:48 GMT

#45

On November 26 2010 08:50 vanillapanda wrote:
Oh man, and now that I'm following spinesheathes build?

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It should be illegal how much fun I'm having.

go 16-0 with evelynn THEN BRAG noob

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

November 26 2010 09:45 GMT

#46

No problem with tank Eve.

I'm currently trying a different rune/mastery setup. I don't play Ashe a lot right now, but the few times I got to try the setup, it felt decent. It's more focused on staying power against hard lanes, with a significant decrease in mid/lategame damage output though (1-10% depending on the armor or your enemies).

0/9/21, 3 MRes, 2 Armor, 3 SoS, 1 DefMastery; utility as usual, Good Hands, Greed.
9 APen marks
9 MP5/L seals
9 flat CDR glyphs
1 APen quint
2 flat CDR quints

Ghost/Cleanse. Items haven't changed either (although opening DBlade gained some ground over DShield with this).

Compared to 11/0/19 that's 12.66 less APen, which means a lot if you have ~50 Apen against enemies with ~70 armor. To compensate, you get SoS and more Armor/Mres, more Summoner Spells and longer buffs. I didn't really calculate how high the DPS difference is if you skip the CDR quints and keep APen because I really feel that at 40% CDR ECA tend to come up JUST in time for cleanup after fights. 3% less might not be enough to seize that timing (+2.25 seconds CD), but I'm still testing.

The reasoning behind this is that the first 4 points in offense are a total waste and the 4 in CDR are weak, while all 9 points in defense are awesome.

Odds

Canada1188 Posts

November 26 2010 20:05 GMT

#47

On November 13 2010 05:36 Mogwai wrote:
seriously, can you name a hero who, at level 6, is like, "psh, anivia, W/E BRO I GOT THIS EZPZLMNSQZ"

Locket Veigar

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

November 26 2010 21:03 GMT

#48

On November 27 2010 05:05 Odds wrote:

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Locket Veigar

I kinda doubt that you have Locket by lvl 6.
With perfect farm from a solo lane, you will be halfway to level 8 by the time you can afford Locket, including your starting gold. Champ kills also give experience so that doesn't change much.
If you sit at the fountain for 1 hour you might be able to pull it off though.

Besides, this thread is about Ashe.

Odds

Canada1188 Posts

November 26 2010 21:42 GMT

#49

On November 27 2010 06:03 spinesheath wrote:

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HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

December 03 2010 22:56 GMT

#50

so grandjudge does
movespeed quints armorpen marks mp5 ylw blues
21/0/9 and he stacks 3 dblades into ie lw

Smgzy

United States187 Posts

December 04 2010 01:03 GMT

#51

On December 04 2010 07:56 HeavOnEarth wrote:
so grandjudge does
movespeed quints armorpen marks mp5 ylw blues
21/0/9 and he stacks 3 dblades into ie lw

21/0/9 for noobs.

do 21/8/1

HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

December 04 2010 01:29 GMT

#52

On December 04 2010 10:03 Smgzy wrote:

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21/0/9 for noobs.

do 21/8/1

xp mastery + 15% buffs is better

barbsq

United States5348 Posts

December 04 2010 07:09 GMT

#53

On December 04 2010 10:03 Smgzy wrote:

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21/0/9 for noobs.

do 21/8/1

21/8/1 is for kids who plan on getting their asses kicked, 21/0/9 is for bravelings who plan on doing the ass kicking

Walde

Finland74 Posts

December 04 2010 07:29 GMT

#54

This mastery thing has been a problem to me for a while. 21/x/x seems good, but i wonder if it's any better than x/x/21, because of meditation, movementspeed and 15% summoner spell cdr. Could one of you better players enlighten me that is it just matter of preference, or if offensive masteries are strictly better than utility ones or vice versa (for Ashe).

Smgzy

United States187 Posts

December 04 2010 09:04 GMT

#55

On December 04 2010 16:29 Walde wrote:
This mastery thing has been a problem to me for a while. 21/x/x seems good, but i wonder if it's any better than x/x/21, because of meditation, movementspeed and 15% summoner spell cdr. Could one of you better players enlighten me that is it just matter of preference, or if offensive masteries are strictly better than utility ones or vice versa (for Ashe).

Especially for ashe the 10% bonus crit damage is quite nice in the offensive tree. The bonus damage you get at early levels makes a world of a difference for last hitting as well as early duels with your lane opponent. It's not really a matter of preference I don't think. Basically if you prefer to be worse then go ahead and do 21 utility.

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

December 04 2010 09:20 GMT

#56

imo you need 2 rune pages for some one like ashe, one similar to grandjudge's setup with the 21-0-9 and then a more defensive page with something like 0-16-14 for times you have to lane against shit like panth/malph/etc

doran's shield doesnt cut it