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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 28 2011 00:20 GMT
#81
Time spent dead = 5-10 seconds less usually in the average game. 4% health/mana regen = barely anything at all. Like, even with 25 health regen/5 or mana regen/5 which is a decent amount, you're only getting 1 more/5.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 28 2011 00:21 GMT
#82
On January 28 2011 09:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 07:57 spinesheath wrote:
21/0/9

That's what I would probably use if I were to go 21/0/9 on Ashe (lol nevar!)
Offensive Mastery should not be needed, and ASpd helps with lasthitting too. For the last utility point, all 3 options are tempting. I would just take Greed because it's great, but depending on how much you hog buffs and what runes you run, you might prefer something else.


why 1 extra attack damage instead of 15% magic penetration? And why reduce time spent dead rather than health/mana regen?


ashe's only magic damage comes from her ult, so its up to preference i suppose

perseverence gives very little regen if you calculate it out, but if you play with the mindset that "you won't die" i suppose that you could take it over good hands. but good hands is much more noticeable (if i had spawned 10 seconds earlier, i could have defended that inhib/tower/nexus/got to baron faster, etc.)
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
January 31 2011 16:19 GMT
#83
I've heard some people say Black Cleaver is better on her than LW, any opinions? Also is phantom dancer good as a 3rd damage item after IE and LW?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 31 2011 16:32 GMT
#84
On February 01 2011 01:19 Woony wrote:
I've heard some people say Black Cleaver is better on her than LW, any opinions? Also is phantom dancer good as a 3rd damage item after IE and LW?

They're good in different situations. Against low-armor targets, BC gives you attack speed and flat pen, but against high-armor targets you really need that 40% pen. One isn't strictly better than the other.

If you went IE/LW, you're going to be short on attack speed so PD is a reasonable followup (though you might want survivability before that).
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locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
February 01 2011 11:28 GMT
#85
Most fucking boring ranged carry in game
i can't stand to play her
the only defensive ranged carry in game too
her playstyle sucks
i hate shooting arrows across the map hoping they'll hit
i hate never being the power player in lane
i fucking wish this champ wasn't op so i wouldn't have to force myself to learn her for the good of my team
i wish riot would give me better ping
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 11:44:29
February 01 2011 11:43 GMT
#86
Loco's just mad because he's a bad ashe. Don't mind him. Ashe is fun to play imo. Kite all day bro.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
February 01 2011 19:12 GMT
#87
ashe is like the only carry i can successfully play =X
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
February 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#88
BC is great on ashe because it's really easy to get followup hits on a single target.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 11:55:29
February 14 2011 11:45 GMT
#89
On another note, do people in high elo/high level of play prefer the gb/b or the ie+bc/lw build? Or is it situational like gb/b = more ultility/support and ie/lw more raw damage?

Also what about CDR boots on her if you go for the ie/lw build? Worth it if you don't need mercs or Swiftness?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 14 2011 13:27 GMT
#90
Don't get CDR boots if you don't plan on maxing out your CDR. Especially for IE based builds I would never get CDR boots - you either take Zerkers if you can afford it, or you get Mercs. You're playing for autoattack damage so you better get some ASpd.


I would be very surprised if anyone except for me goes GB/B unless they are trolling (or think they are). I actually think that that after the IE nerf and the BC change, GB/B into BC has become awesome. But I don't play Ashe very often right now, so I haven't tested/calculated it all.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that IE > GB/B in terms of DPS unconditionally. The builds are extremely close in overall DPS.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 17:30:45
February 14 2011 17:30 GMT
#91
Triforce ashe best ashe.

Volley -> triforce proc -> Arrow -> triforce proc -> Volley -> triforce proc bes DPS
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 14 2011 17:34 GMT
#92
On February 15 2011 02:30 Juicyfruit wrote:
Triforce ashe best ashe.

Volley -> triforce proc -> Arrow -> triforce proc -> Volley -> triforce proc bes DPS

You are forgetting about Hawkshot. I prefer Volleying from far away though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 14 2011 19:05 GMT
#93
On February 14 2011 22:27 spinesheath wrote:
Don't get CDR boots if you don't plan on maxing out your CDR. Especially for IE based builds I would never get CDR boots - you either take Zerkers if you can afford it, or you get Mercs. You're playing for autoattack damage so you better get some ASpd.


I would be very surprised if anyone except for me goes GB/B unless they are trolling (or think they are). I actually think that that after the IE nerf and the BC change, GB/B into BC has become awesome. But I don't play Ashe very often right now, so I haven't tested/calculated it all.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that IE > GB/B in terms of DPS unconditionally. The builds are extremely close in overall DPS.

Dan Dinh's been spamming games with a CDR Ashe build that goes something like:
CDR Boots->Bruta->BT->Situational stuff (LW/BC/BV etc.). Not really the same, but carries the spirit of a volley-spam CDR build.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 16 2011 09:22 GMT
#94
On February 01 2011 20:28 locodoco wrote:
Most fucking boring ranged carry in game
i can't stand to play her
the only defensive ranged carry in game too
her playstyle sucks
i hate shooting arrows across the map hoping they'll hit
i hate never being the power player in lane
i fucking wish this champ wasn't op so i wouldn't have to force myself to learn her for the good of my team

muahaha suffer
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
February 16 2011 09:44 GMT
#95
cdr ashe died with locket srysry

ps. ruru ashe -> rage hsgg
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 16 2011 09:57 GMT
#96
On February 16 2011 18:44 Yiruru wrote:
cdr ashe died with locket srysry

ps. ruru ashe -> rage hsgg

what runes n stuff do u do on ur ashe? D:
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
February 19 2011 02:01 GMT
#97
clever infi pdancer best build
skyhighftw on iccup
PBC
Profile Joined March 2011
167 Posts
March 08 2011 20:34 GMT
#98
best build on ashe :
dorans blade
berserker greaves
dorans blade
dorans blade

farm until
BF sword
zeal
IE
Phanton dancer

proceed to rape face and farm until your items look like

berserker greaves
Phantom Dancer
IE
Black Cleaver
Bloodthirster
Bloodthirster

crit for over 1000. hit 2 times a second. heal yourself with every hit
watch the rage
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#99
On March 09 2011 05:34 PBC wrote:
best build on ashe :
dorans blade
berserker greaves
dorans blade
dorans blade

farm until
BF sword
zeal
IE
Phanton dancer

proceed to rape face and farm until your items look like

berserker greaves
Phantom Dancer
IE
Black Cleaver
Bloodthirster
Bloodthirster

crit for over 1000. hit 2 times a second. heal yourself with every hit
watch the rage

you are my favorite poster. your builds are so well thought out and refined, can you please post a build for every champion you play so that I can start to get as good as you at this game?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 09 2011 03:00 GMT
#100
LOL THE SARCASM HIT HARDER THAN ASHE DID

No but seriously after a certain point on any dps you need survivability because that extra time you spend in the fight shooting is going to be worth more than the extra damage you do on your one or two shots.
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