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On September 01 2012 18:00 sylverfyre wrote: Rageblade Phage seems like a boss offensive core. Can you hate spike with no targets around? If so, as long as you have mana, you can maintain stacks so you start a teamfight at or near full stacks, which, when combined with the incredibly efficient stats rageblade offers... is really good. I get it on Skarner when I have the freedom to build an purely offensive item... which is sadly very rarely. Eve is a little easier to build offense on it seems, you're not trying to facetank the entire enemy team's wrath to ult someone.
Sadly you can't spam hate spike without a target, and you wouldn't want to cos it would break stealth. But you hit full stacks really quickly off of just Q spam, W and E.
Right now, AP Eve is better than DPS. This is pretty much a fact. But for those like me who find DPS eve more fun, GRBPhage is the way to go.
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Eve is surprisingly strong top, just spam Q when melees try to lasthit, if they use a gap closer on you, just E them and W and run like the wind. Her laning is stronger top than mid IMO. Of course your roaming, which is her strong point, is harder to do from top lane :/
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When jungling AP Eve, which runes/masteries setup would you use? Double pen seems strong but way too costly in points, while mp5/MS/buff duration in utility look interesting to use the red buff and your chasing power better (I'm not sure about mp5, apparently the buff of her passive makes her less blue-dependant?). On the other hand, we're talking about Eve so a minimum of 11 in defense seems mandatory (reduce incoming damage/minion damage, more armor, more HP). What about 9-12-9 on her?
And for runes, AD or AS (MPen would only be useful when ganking, but then again she relies a lot on ganks) reds, flat armor yellows, flat armor or flat/scaling MR blues, and armor or MS quints. Something like that?
From what I've seen, the item path is boots+3, kage, 1-2 drings if needed to pad your stats a bit, DFG, then it depends on how fed you get, from deathcap if you really are to maybe Abyssal (dunno after the range nerf, abyssal range is shorter than both DFG and your stealth) or stuff like GA/lichbane if you need to be a bit tankier.
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On September 13 2012 09:53 Alaric wrote:When jungling AP Eve, which runes/masteries setup would you use? Double pen seems strong but way too costly in points, while mp5/MS/buff duration in utility look interesting to use the red buff and your chasing power better (I'm not sure about mp5, apparently the buff of her passive makes her less blue-dependant?). On the other hand, we're talking about Eve so a minimum of 11 in defense seems mandatory (reduce incoming damage/minion damage, more armor, more HP). What about 9-12-9 on her? And for runes, AD or AS (MPen would only be useful when ganking, but then again she relies a lot on ganks) reds, flat armor yellows, flat armor or flat/scaling MR blues, and armor or MS quints. Something like that? From what I've seen, the item path is boots+3, kage, 1-2 drings if needed to pad your stats a bit, DFG, then it depends on how fed you get, from deathcap if you really are to maybe Abyssal (dunno after the range nerf, abyssal range is shorter than both DFG and your stealth) or stuff like GA/lichbane if you need to be a bit tankier. I dunno maybe. Magic Pen Reds/Armor Yellows/ AP/L Blues?(could do MR I guess)/ and either Movespeed/AP Quints. Could run armor too i think
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Had an ap eve mid in ranked today on my team. She got fed hard
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On September 13 2012 10:05 ReketSomething wrote:Had an ap eve mid in ranked today on my team. She got fed hard  Was it vs Galio mid by chance?
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On September 13 2012 10:09 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 10:05 ReketSomething wrote:Had an ap eve mid in ranked today on my team. She got fed hard  Was it vs Galio mid by chance? Her burst is absolutely ridiculous against almost anybody and sadly she will be nerfed pretty soon imo.
Use her while you can.
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0K, turns out runes and masteries don't matter that much, used ArPen/armor/scaling MR/MS and an incomplete 9-12-9. It was arguably on a smurf, but the ability to oneshot anybody that doesn't build MR (didn't have the opportunity to get void staff and use it on people with MR) makes it so retarded, you snipe people left and right, and if you don't engage right away you can even have your E back to nuke whoever tries to dive your carries.
Post-6 + DFG, you don't even come to gank, you just come to kill a laner by yourself. ô_o I don't think MPen reds would be a good idea though, AD or an AD/ArPen mix prob better since she jungle so slowly at first you need that to take less damage (I did a first game without a leash, the second one I got a leash but the red started attacking me and reseted at some point).
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had an eve jungle today
her build was boots + 3, hog, mobilities, philo, wriggles, phage, pick, dfg, frozen mallet, hextech gunblade, bloodthirster
we didn't win but i got a good laugh out of it
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On September 13 2012 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 10:09 arb wrote:On September 13 2012 10:05 ReketSomething wrote:Had an ap eve mid in ranked today on my team. She got fed hard  Was it vs Galio mid by chance? Her burst is absolutely ridiculous against almost anybody and sadly she will be nerfed pretty soon imo. Use her while you can.
I wouldn't be surprised... ranked game I was against her as Ryze, my Jax feeds her double buffs while screwing around in the enemy jungle... and then I got brutalized in lane because Mumu wouldn't leave me alone. Now Eve can roam whereever she wants and I can't do jack to stop her. And if I'm not careful, she can just use her speed buff after my snare and chunk my health in lane too. That was really, really stupid.
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On September 13 2012 10:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 10:09 arb wrote:On September 13 2012 10:05 ReketSomething wrote:Had an ap eve mid in ranked today on my team. She got fed hard  Was it vs Galio mid by chance? Her burst is absolutely ridiculous against almost anybody and sadly she will be nerfed pretty soon imo. Use her while you can. Yea I'm expecting perma ban status at my Elo in the next couple of days. 310 Pride has been spamming games with her and owning. It's super strong.
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R>Q>E>W? I don't initiate, so I stay around the fight, waiting for the tanks to go in, but I find myself that I have to use W to get a good R off... but I die b/c I get cc due to W cd. Suggestions?
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another OP inept nostradamus'd
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On September 13 2012 14:07 nosliw wrote: R>Q>E>W? I don't initiate, so I stay around the fight, waiting for the tanks to go in, but I find myself that I have to use W to get a good R off... but I die b/c I get cc due to W cd. Suggestions? Build DFG, combo it with R to make sure you get your W back less than 2 seconds later. I haven't had any problem to pick off a target by skirting around the edges of the fight, not showing myself and trying to come in at odd angles. I usually have to E to finish off tho but the enemy team never really turned on me, or not fast enough to plow through the shield and kill me before I got away.
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On September 13 2012 15:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: another OP inept nostradamus'd How long ago? It was pretty obvious she was going to be OP after the last round of massive buffs.
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boots+3 -> pick -> DFG -> sorcs -> guise so absurd, true damage to anyone neglecting to buy MR and then you just stack some AP and snipe people from outside stealth range. I generally still need to E them to seal the deal, but unless they've got good CC and reaction time I can snipe a squishy then get out as soon as a fight start, or even before. I feel really useless after that though, unless I manage to get a few more E in during the fight.
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hmm do you guys max Q over E even though E deals more dmg?
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I always did to be able to clear camps between ganks. But I think you can probably play around only putting 2-3 points into Q then max E. Eve mid has to max Q I believe because otherwise you'll just get too pushed to roam.
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On September 13 2012 22:47 Alaric wrote: boots+3 -> pick -> DFG -> sorcs -> guise so absurd, true damage to anyone neglecting to buy MR and then you just stack some AP and snipe people from outside stealth range. I generally still need to E them to seal the deal, but unless they've got good CC and reaction time I can snipe a squishy then get out as soon as a fight start, or even before. I feel really useless after that though, unless I manage to get a few more E in during the fight. Take is a step further and get Abyssal huehuehue
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