EPT[Champion] Katarina - Page 8
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On March 09 2012 18:11 Shiv. wrote: Scarra and anyone I've ever seen playing her successfully at a high level would like a word with you. Basic reasoning: you spend 3k gold on 80 AP and then wonder why your assassin isn't assassinating anyone. I've linked the reddit champion of the day discussion about her, where scarra explains a lot of things in depth. Nah, wei2coolman does it, lol. So yeah, pretty much. AD Kat is too squishy to stick to a target, you waste a precious 0.7 AP ratio on your Shunpo. Multiple times in a teamfight, that is. Can you link it again i cant seem to find it. I actually started playing kat because of watching scarra i would be very interested to see what he has to say | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On April 02 2012 23:18 jaybrundage wrote: Can you link it again i cant seem to find it. I actually started playing kat because of watching scarra i would be very interested to see what he has to say sure thing. | ||
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On April 06 2012 09:31 susySquark wrote: According to this post by Riot, they are looking to tweak Katarina soon (TM). What do you think needs adjusted to make her more viable, without completely making her OP? tweak her Q a bit, maybe give it the vlad treatment so it isn't so bad until level 5/7 and shes fine | ||
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
Did this a few days ago in a 1.7k ranked game. http://i.imgur.com/4z1Ar.jpg Feels good man. Feel like she's a beast in solo q if you can find a good matchup to make it through the first 10 minutes of the game. | ||
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Strykemard
168 Posts
EDIT: Never mind I got it. Your score is 13-3-7 thats why. The greatest score possible. | ||
Flicky
England2662 Posts
On April 06 2012 09:31 susySquark wrote: According to this post by Riot, they are looking to tweak Katarina soon (TM). What do you think needs adjusted to make her more viable, without completely making her OP? Riot seem to think there's a problem with you doing nothing if your ult doesn't go off. Personally, as soon as I started understanding Kat and playing her properly I haven't had this issue. I don't think you need to change anything with Katarina. She's plenty good as it is and always seems to have a fair shot at doing well in the game. She has hard matchups, but every champion does. Not even sure what I would like them to change. I can't think of anything that would be fair. Maybe make her Q prioritise low health minions/champions. | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
I honestly think she's a great laner as well, there's only a couple champs that can consistently beat her out in my experience (like Cassiopia). | ||
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G3CKO
Canada1430 Posts
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Strykemard
168 Posts
On April 12 2012 16:47 bovineblitz wrote: I don't think Kat has a problem, her ult is good enough that the disadvantage of stuns/silences disabling it is fine. She's not a pure "ult and win" champ anyways, you shouldn't rely on the ult when you play her. I honestly think she's a great laner as well, there's only a couple champs that can consistently beat her out in my experience (like Cassiopia). Kat imo is actually highly dependant on her ult. Its a major source of damage for her and you shouldn't write it off. Because of this reason you need to wait before you use your ult. While it might be tempting, you dont jump on a 1v5 just to ult. You'll get cc'ed and you'll die. Wait for their ccs to be used up and then jump in between the cds. If you cannot get an opening, pressure them with blades. If you are confident cc will not kill you, or if it will give your team an advantage jump in so that your team can come out ahead. | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Her ult being countered is okay, because it's one of the highest DPS ults in the game, and an ult like that w/ no counter would be beyond broken. Plus i play Kat AD most of the time, meaning I just spam Q from safe distance after my ult goes off. That w/ the W anti-heal debuff. any changes to kat could make her broken.... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
The thing about Rylai's is probably right. I should try it out. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 16 2012 21:42 Sufficiency wrote: I find Kat really, really hard to play, because I have absolutely no idea how to lane with her... it's kind of like trying to lane with Evelynn, except I don't have mana... but my kit also does less damage. The thing about Rylai's is probably right. I should try it out. laning with kat is pretty much based on who the enemy is. but general rule of thumb is to max q first, and use that as your main last hitting ability. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 16 2012 21:46 wei2coolman wrote: laning with kat is pretty much based on who the enemy is. but general rule of thumb is to max q first, and use that as your main last hitting ability. I think the problem is that Kat has no innate escape abilities (E is situational at best) and she has no stun/snare/slow. When my opponent comes at me for any reason, I have no means to react. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
On April 12 2012 16:47 bovineblitz wrote: I don't think Kat has a problem, her ult is good enough that the disadvantage of stuns/silences disabling it is fine. She's not a pure "ult and win" champ anyways, you shouldn't rely on the ult when you play her. I honestly think she's a great laner as well, there's only a couple champs that can consistently beat her out in my experience (like Cassiopia). If Kat doesn't rely on her Ult, what skill can she rely on? Her shunpo is pretty good damage but it's only 1 skill. Her Q falls off in damage compared to her shunpo. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
^^^ This is the best guide to playing Katarina at a high level and I use it as my bible when playing as Katarina. The main reason for AP Kat is because AD Kat is so relient on her ult for damage because shunpo becomes useless except for extra mobility. The .7 ratio on shunpo should not be ignored. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 16 2012 21:58 GhostOwl wrote: If Kat doesn't rely on her Ult, what skill can she rely on? Her shunpo is pretty good damage but it's only 1 skill. Her Q falls off in damage compared to her shunpo. Her Q only falls off in damage if you build AP. Ergo my teh epic AD build. Not to mention it pretty much prevents the entire enemy team from healing, in combo w/ her W. | ||
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