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-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 16:48:25
November 07 2010 19:28 GMT
#1
Katarina or just Kat for short

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Katarina is a mana-free, energy-free, hp-cost free assassin hero who specializes in poking, laning attrition, chasing, and dishing out tons of damage in team fights as long as she doesn't get stunned or silenced.

Innate Ability - Voracity
---- This is what makes Kat Kat. It is her Soul.
---- Whenever she scores a kill or assist, all of her cooldowns are reduced by ~13 seconds.

Q - Bouncing Blade
---- scales with AD - 100%
---- hits 1 + 1 x level targets, dealing 10% less damage each bounce

W - Killer Instincts
---- Gives Killer Instincts buff for 10 seconds
---- While KI buff is active using a Q or E skill will remove it and,
-------- next Bouncing Blade will do full damage on bounces and give 50% regeneration debuff
-------- next Shunpo will give Kat 10-25% damage reduction for ~3-4 seconds

E - Shunpo
---- scales with AP - 75%
---- targets friendly and enemy
---- deals damage if enemy and teleports Kat to the target

R - Death Lotus
---- scales with AD (33% of AD from items only) or AP (50%)
---- hits 1 x level targets repeatedly over a 2 second interval
---- try not to get silenced!


Generally accepted playstyles

There are two ways to play Kat, AD and AP, and people love to argue over which is better. Personally I think AD is better, so its what I'll write about because I know it best.

I'm sure all different kinds summoner spells are good on kat (heal, cleanse, flash, ghost, teleport, etc) but in my opinion exhaust and ignite are the best pair. They help you get kills early on in lane and push your attrition game as hard as possible, so much more than any other pair.

Regardless of whether you are building AP or AD, you don't want to just stack that one stat. I've found that Katarina needs both defensive and offensive items to work her magic. In particular, it's great to get some extra HP, a Banshee's Veil in most situations, and possibly a Guardian Angel.

Although the mana buff from banshee's veil is totally wasted, the protection from CC it provides can be more than worth it. It allows you to Q warwick with impunity and not have to worry about his ult. It allows you to dive into a team fight next to that sion that has been saving his stun for you and come out with a triple kill. It comes up and saves your ass when you least expect it.

The argument for AP kat is that there are great AP items like Rylais Crystal Scepter and Haunting Guise that boost defense and offense at the same time which have no parallel on the AD side. Although having lots of HP and having your ult slow is utterly fabulous, I still think AD is better. It's more well rounded and allows you to win the game without focusing on just killing people and without getting super lucky with voractiy-fueled double-ult quadra kills, That is, AD farms really well and takes down turrets really well, plus it allows you to be useful in team fights while your ult is down.

So without further blathering, here's how I play Katarina.
I'm not high elo at all just fyi

Or rather, how I don't play her. I will not play Kat if I think that my team has a lot less stuns / slows / silences than the other team. AD kat brings zero CC to the table, and is only really effective when she can float along on other peoples stuns, roots, and such. But when she does.....

My runes are magic pen marks, armor seals, cdr glyphs, and flat hp quints.

I go 9/21/0 in masteries to get the extra magic pen, extra damage reduction and hp.

I pick Exhaust and Ignite and a Doran's Shield plus Health Pot, and go mid unless someone else really wants to.

I level up Q, E, Q, W, Q, R Q, Q, E etc

Kat is a good mid champion. She can use her Q to either farm minions from a safe distance, harass, or both. In combination with her W, it gives great attrition. With the correct timing, you can actually out-attrition a Vlad who bought more potions than you did. Don't hesitate to use ignite to nullify a potion if Killer Instincts and Bouncing Blade aren't up.

If your opponent has 5 HP bars or less and no flash, you may be able to kill them or force them back at level 2. Try to land a couple Q hits beforehand, don't push towards their tower to bring them out farther, then if they take the bait, shunpo, auto attack, exhaust / ignite, Bouncing Blade, and keep auto attacking. If they get to their turret with < 150 hp, you might be able to do one final shunpo + BB combo for the kill, then use your refreshed cooldown on shunpo to get out before the turret kills you. Do not attempt this if you aren't sure or if there are no minions to jump to. Watch out for heals / red pots and stuns when you are tower diving.

If you didn't die or got a couple kills, you should be able to go back and buy a BF sword and boots on your first trip back. Thats an optimal situation. It doesn't always happen, but when it does and you are the highest level character on the map at level 8 or so, it makes you god. You hit hard with your Q and basic attacks, you are very mobile, and your ult can squish a health bar down to size in the blink of an eye. So, be bold, farm hard and harass, but don't do anything stupid. Constantly remind yourself that even though you don't have any snowball items, you are still snowballing. Kats dominance depends on her being bigger and stronger than everyone else. You want to have more hp than their tank during the early stages of the game, and you do it by starting out hp heavy (defensive tree, hp quints, dorans shield) and keeping it up by leveling up consistently. I usually buy a ruby crystal after my first BF sword if its practical and because Banshees veil is almost always a good idea. If they have a lot of casters I might even buy the negatron cloak early as well.

I view Kat as a carry. She should get the imba black shield on her. She should get healed. She doesn't engage first and doesn't get CC'd, because she has Banshees and waits for the enemy team to burn most of thier CC. If you start out in mid or a 1v2 lane and don't die, even if you don't get many kills, your Q and E should allow you to outfarm your opponent and be the highest level character on the map, with the most farm and damage output. You try to lever that and never let it go, just exploit it more and more.

Getting the red buff helps tons at any stage of the game. Blue is ok too for the CDR, but someone else needs it more than you in almost every case.

The final stage of your domination consists of two Bloodthirsters, a zeal / phantom dancer, Banshees Veil, and a Guardian Angel. If you never die thanks to your nice movespeed, lifesteal and defensive items, your bloodthirsters will become superbaddass and make your q, ult, and autoattacks rape face even harder. 1 extra bf sword or a GA is a tradeoff you can make, but either way you should be a hell of a pain in the ass for the other team, especially if you get a zeal / phantom dancer. The extra speed lets you chase better and makes your auto attack relatively ferocious. You can never disregard your autoattack when playing AD Kat.

entko-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States34 Posts
November 08 2010 05:06 GMT
#2
Banshees is not that useful on her because with tons of spells thrown around in a team fight, the shield will pop quickly, especially since Kat is in the middle of everything. Also, AD is typically not preferable (IMO) because you will lose your BT charges quite often and there is no utility. There are better champs to poke with than AD Kat. AP provides a ton more for the team and more survivability.

Kat is a champ with a lot of small tactics that can only be picked up by experience, particularly in the laning phase, which is her strength.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 08 2010 10:11 GMT
#3
in the spirit of a certain retired member of our community

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129727&currentpage=790#15799

whatever did happen to him, did he just quit?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 16:53:32
November 08 2010 16:44 GMT
#4
The banshee's veil is used for tower diving and 1v1 or 1v2 situations, in team fights yeah its pretty useless I agree. It still has a chance of saving you though. If you go in with black shield and banshees up then you are probably going to get a lotus off

Edit, thanks for linking that redtooth post - its got some really good builds and information on specific tricks to do with kat.
entko-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States34 Posts
November 08 2010 20:40 GMT
#5
1v1 and 1v2 tower diving situations typically occur early-mid game. To get a banshee's so early would hurt your early game power. Considering Kat is much stronger earlier than later, getting banshees over another dps item would hurt her ganking/team fight potential. Yes it might save you from a stun, but playing Kat is more of knowing when to go in so you don't get interrupted instantly. I've never found the need for banshee's to get kills early/midgame and I find that getting your sorc boots, haunting guise, and rylais are much more key to getting kills than banshees is.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 08 2010 21:00 GMT
#6
IMO, AP Kat is strictly better then AD Kat. There are quite a few reasons for this:

1. You want some form of spell pen so your abilities will actually hurt their targets - in game it can only be found on AP items, if you opt for an AD build this AP is wasted (with respect to your ult)

2. Your ult scales better off of AP then AD for similar gold expenditures (50 AD = 27.5 damage for 1850g - you need 91.667 AP for the same damage which costs 1833g if you use BFS and NLR for item efficiencies)

3. Significantly better utility from AP items. You get things like Rylai's Slow, or spell vamp or Z-Ring immunity in an AP build but the AD build gives you lifesteal which you can't really use.

You trade that for harder hitting auto-attacks, which you don't do often, and a harder hitting BB which is not hugely important.

Also, Banshee's is huge on Katarina, when you ult you will be the focus of CC and forcing them to use two instead of one is excellent for your team since that CC isn't on your ranged physical carry or a support healer.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
December 01 2010 23:26 GMT
#7
On November 08 2010 19:11 barbsq wrote:
in the spirit of a certain retired member of our community

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129727&currentpage=790#15799

whatever did happen to him, did he just quit?
i'm back now.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 01 2010 23:54 GMT
#8
i'm back now.


Awwwwwww shit.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
December 02 2010 16:32 GMT
#9
Does your ult not scale from AP and AD simultaneously? Like it only chooses the higher number or something?
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 02 2010 16:35 GMT
#10
yea, it only chooses the higher number, so go AD if you're a noob and go straight AP if you're a baller, but never go hybrid because it sucks.
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Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 20:19:15
December 02 2010 16:38 GMT
#11
I rush Locket+Visage on her and own everyone these days. Riot prob nerfing it soon rofl.
edit: not really.
MIK Terran
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 02 2010 17:25 GMT
#12
On December 03 2010 01:38 Ruken wrote:
I rush Locket+Visage on her and own everyone these days. Riot prob nerfing it soon rofl.


o.O the mana is completely wasted tho.... idk how u justify spending so much on an item that is as much mana regen and increasing mana pool as it is increasing hp regen and hp pool on a hero that doesnt have mana
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
December 02 2010 18:48 GMT
#13
kat doesn't need regen. she needs health (real or indirect). you're gonna get focused down asap so either you blow up and do shit-tons of damage or survive a little longer to do a little more damage.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 14 2010 10:39 GMT
#14
how viable is AD kat now? they nerfed her BB's AD scaling and made her ult scale off of both
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
December 14 2010 12:29 GMT
#15
Pretty sure Hybrid Kat is easily best Kat now.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 13:13:33
December 14 2010 13:12 GMT
#16
AD kat easily better, since you can get rylais for her, and she pokes much better.

EDIT: Or rather, triple snowball kat best kat. That levi and that w.
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Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 13:43:58
December 14 2010 13:41 GMT
#17
On December 14 2010 22:12 cascades wrote:
AD kat easily better, since you can get rylais for her, and she pokes much better.

EDIT: Or rather, triple snowball kat best kat. That levi and that w.


Wouldn't buying a Rylais on her make it an AP build?
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
December 14 2010 14:45 GMT
#18
AD with Rylai and triple snowball are hybrid builds, the idea being that you get the best damage/effects from both damage types.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 14 2010 17:28 GMT
#19
But she doesn't seem like a hybrid that wants a rageblade... or does she?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 14 2010 19:26 GMT
#20
On December 15 2010 02:28 sylverfyre wrote:
But she doesn't seem like a hybrid that wants a rageblade... or does she?

I dont think so. So much of playing kat is waiting for the right time to shunpo in and ulti. I dont think you will be able to build and hold stacks prior to teamfights well enough.

Could be proven wrong though.
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