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symbolic
Profile Joined August 2010
254 Posts
November 08 2010 02:42 GMT
#41
So after trying out a lot of different builds, after I've gotten used to watching my riftwalk stacks a lot more closely the one that has been my favorite is

doran's shield + hp
cata
boots 1
SS
RoA
sorcerer's
zhonya's
void staff
banshee's/RoA

Thanks for the help refining my build, southlight.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 08 2010 02:54 GMT
#42
No~ problem :D
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 05:24:36
November 08 2010 05:23 GMT
#43
im really glad i tried to get good at kass awhile back. it really taught me alot about teamfight dynamics because kass plays such an interesting role in them. and if you dont really do it right you just die immediately.

also just played normal 5s with locicero and some other ppl as kass and sucked ass. they REALLY didnt like me and kept FFing me >_<. i just turned into a snarebot so rammus,mundo and panth could catch up.

*edit
also uta what do you do vs sivir? do you just abandon Q and throw points into E? spell shield imba against slow missiles
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 06:31:59
November 08 2010 06:31 GMT
#44
Yes, I do. :D

Edit:
At least one point in Q just to take off Spellshield when you need the snare.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 08 2010 16:51 GMT
#45
true story i chased down a kass with ezreal
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 08 2010 16:55 GMT
#46
On November 09 2010 01:51 HeavOnEarth wrote:
true story i chased down a kass with ezreal


Did you cheat? (read: Lizard)
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
November 08 2010 17:57 GMT
#47
This is a totally wrong way to play Kassadin, the League of Legends homepage lists the champion as a melee / fighter / carry / farmer champion, you should stack crit and AD to have synergy with the AS boost from his passive and the armor pen from his W [/endtroll]

On a more serious note, nice guide :p
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 08 2010 22:05 GMT
#48
On November 09 2010 02:57 Zato-1 wrote:
This is a totally wrong way to play Kassadin, the League of Legends homepage lists the champion as a melee / fighter / carry / farmer champion, you should stack crit and AD to have synergy with the AS boost from his passive and the armor pen from his W


True story

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOT4nP0p6E4









Clearly the right way to play.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
November 08 2010 22:13 GMT
#49
Sunfire was such a noob trap that game. Good thing Shen was there to constantly proc your passive!
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 08 2010 22:17 GMT
#50
And Mundo's burning thingy!
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Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
November 11 2010 02:41 GMT
#51
Hey utah, I'm pretty new to kassadin but I was in a game earlier today playing as him and I have couple questions. I was carrying my team pretty hard when the enemy kassadin basically starts playing what I guess I would describe as hybrid kassadin to counter me. His build was as follows

Merc treads
Gunblade
Rageblade
Lichbane
Malady
GA

Point is he was tearing me apart by waiting for me to rift-walk in, silencing so I can't escape, then bursting me down and forcing me to fight melee against him. It was devastating. I had double RoA, Banshees, Zhonya, void staff, and soulstealer. What would you do vs something like that?
MIK Terran
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 11 2010 03:00 GMT
#52
Get some Armor. GA instead of Banshee's. Drop the SS if there aren't more than 10 charges. Same with Void Staff. If you're getting hard countered by another champion, don't stick with your glass cannon build. You're getting whittled down by physical attacks, drop some MR and AP and pick up some armor.

Drop priority SS >= Void Staff > Banshee's. Selling a Banshee's always hurt, so here's to hoping that you're adapting your build while you play and picking up a GA instead of a Banshee's.
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
November 12 2010 18:51 GMT
#53
On November 11 2010 11:41 Ruken wrote:
Hey utah, I'm pretty new to kassadin but I was in a game earlier today playing as him and I have couple questions. I was carrying my team pretty hard when the enemy kassadin basically starts playing what I guess I would describe as hybrid kassadin to counter me. His build was as follows

Merc treads
Gunblade
Rageblade
Lichbane
Malady
GA

Point is he was tearing me apart by waiting for me to rift-walk in, silencing so I can't escape, then bursting me down and forcing me to fight melee against him. It was devastating. I had double RoA, Banshees, Zhonya, void staff, and soulstealer. What would you do vs something like that?


melee kass sucks because he's reliant on being in melee range

get a ga if you had double roa already and get some mitigation. his build is reliant on standing there dpsing you for like 4-5 seconds, which is bad when his build is quite squishy like that. of course melee kass > ap kass 1v1
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 12 2010 18:53 GMT
#54
no one mentioning that he should've had merc treads, LOLOLOLOL.

just because you have a 3 second CD flash doesn't mean you don't need move speed and that debuff reduction would've done wonders :p.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 18:56:42
November 12 2010 18:54 GMT
#55
I just don't understand how that Kassadin didn't explode every time he tried to Rift at someone to kill them. Is like Arcane Shifting into the enemy team to hit them from melee range with Ezreal. How the f do you not just, die.

Edit:
I mean, even me trolling with true AD Kassadin and racking up crazy kill sprees I had trouble surviving until I stacked Life Steal... and I was basically ahead the whole game so that was npnp, primarily because the Trist failed at laning vs me.

This guy's running some hackney hybrid build that makes no real sense, no sustained survival or anything, just a GA.

Weird.
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Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
November 12 2010 20:52 GMT
#56

Merc treads
Gunblade
Rageblade
Lichbane
Malady
GA


Looks like he just had enough MR to mitigate your damage, and since you probably didn't have any he owned you.

I recently tried double RoA, it doesn't seem to work very well for me. You can't kill anyone (if you end up getting mitigation items) and you end up getting killed just as fast as if you didn't have that HP, without the mitigation items.
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
November 18 2010 18:51 GMT
#57
I've been playing kass recently, mostly because I got inspired by your guide and vids on youtube, really great stuff.

Solo laning though I've been having some mixed results vs vlad. Last game I played I think he had defensive masteries(he had +6MR) and he just maintained high hp and spammed q on creeps if needed. Is there anyway to really beat a vlad after you're both lvl 7 or should I focus more on staying alive/keeping him busy while last hitting as much as possible.

On the other hand I played a vlad a couple of days ago who I had no problem zoning him. My Q just seemed to hit harder.

P.S.: I use flat ap quint since I haven't bought mpen ones yet.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 19:01:40
November 18 2010 18:57 GMT
#58
Post-7 most heroes struggle to kick out Vlad; the life gain is too much. The idea against Vlad isn't so much to obliterate him but to abuse your earlier advantage with Q to farm up, so that by the time he starts gaining a foothold you're farmed up, have Catalyst, etc. Short of a strong EQR by Vlad you're a stronger hero than him anyways.

Edit:
Casters in generally have a difficult time preventing the opponent from farming; when they do, people cry OP.

For instance, Vlad's annoying as hell, but how often does he really stop an MF, Trist, etc. from farming if they want to? How often does Morgana actually stop farm? Galio? Anivia's notorious for giving opponents 6 levels of free-farm.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 19:13:36
November 18 2010 19:12 GMT
#59
On November 11 2010 11:41 Ruken wrote:
Hey utah, I'm pretty new to kassadin but I was in a game earlier today playing as him and I have couple questions. I was carrying my team pretty hard when the enemy kassadin basically starts playing what I guess I would describe as hybrid kassadin to counter me. His build was as follows

Merc treads
Gunblade
Rageblade
Lichbane
Malady
GA

Point is he was tearing me apart by waiting for me to rift-walk in, silencing so I can't escape, then bursting me down and forcing me to fight melee against him. It was devastating. I had double RoA, Banshees, Zhonya, void staff, and soulstealer. What would you do vs something like that?


yeah, i also got wrecked a while back by a similar build, xcept i remember a manamune in there somewhere. It was kinda crazy and really jarring. He also seemed really difficult to kill as well, tho it could just be that im bad
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
symbolic
Profile Joined August 2010
254 Posts
November 18 2010 19:44 GMT
#60
On November 19 2010 04:12 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 11:41 Ruken wrote:
Hey utah, I'm pretty new to kassadin but I was in a game earlier today playing as him and I have couple questions. I was carrying my team pretty hard when the enemy kassadin basically starts playing what I guess I would describe as hybrid kassadin to counter me. His build was as follows

Merc treads
Gunblade
Rageblade
Lichbane
Malady
GA

Point is he was tearing me apart by waiting for me to rift-walk in, silencing so I can't escape, then bursting me down and forcing me to fight melee against him. It was devastating. I had double RoA, Banshees, Zhonya, void staff, and soulstealer. What would you do vs something like that?


yeah, i also got wrecked a while back by a similar build, xcept i remember a manamune in there somewhere. It was kinda crazy and really jarring. He also seemed really difficult to kill as well, tho it could just be that im bad

A good kassadin doesn't need a good build to be hard to kill.
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