EPT[Champion] Kassadin - Page 2
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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symbolic
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
It's a playstyle you can choose to do, and if it keeps working for you then by all means go for it.  | ||
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symbolic
254 Posts
I'm going to try something similar to the last build you mentioned and then doran's shield + hp tear boots 1 SS cata RoA sorcerer's AA zhonya's void staff I think the rift walk spam might be too ingrained in my head to get away from now but I'll have to wait and see what I think later today when I try them out. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
In other words, don't feel compelled to take an item/skill build from a "top player" just because they posted it. It's more important for you to understand the thinking process behind their choices, look at what your opinion is, and learn from it. That's my philosophy is, anyways. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
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Southlight
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Pandonetho
Canada321 Posts
0/9/21 non-negotiable. He needs the summoner spells (esp. Cleanse), he needs buff duration, he needs meditation, and he needs SoS. Just curious, don't you need 12 points in defense to get cleanse? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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NeoIllusions
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Tooplark
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On November 07 2010 10:18 Tooplark wrote: Hey Uta, what are some notable solo matchups for Kass? Who does he absolutely stomp? Who does he lose to? He stomps most casters, loses to trist. And since the new champs and other changes from the beginning of s1 there are champs that you just won't win or lose against, especially those like sion who will instagib your wave and push like nothing, the ones you level E over Q because you're in serious risk of losing your tower without anyone getting low on health. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
He stomps a lot of sub-par ranged heroes like Kayle, many casters, that sort of goodies. He'll also generally demolish melee heroes, so don't even try. He gets wrecked by Kog'Maw - there's nothing you can do except go away. Creep-clearing heroes (Galio, Morgana) are annoying but you can end up zoning them because you're still a stronger 1v1 hero. They'll make the creep come for you though but clearing yours really quickly. Healers (Taric, Soraka, Nidalee, etc.) give him fits. | ||
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sRapers_ValkS
United States644 Posts
i didn't realize you max Q before E, i always kinda thought that E was your main nuke (greater base damage + scaling) and you just max Q till level 6 then E after, does it not make any sense to level them in conjunction? actually i guess if you play him as a poker instead of a burster that makes sense. thanks for guide. | ||
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symbolic
254 Posts
I did: doran's shield + hp cata boots 1 SS RoA sorcerer's cata RoA GA zhonya and it worked surprisingly well. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I think leveling Q or E depends on the range you like to fight at, but you can make a compelling argument to level Q to ~3 and then max E. | ||
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Aukai
United States1183 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:52 symbolic wrote: Has anyone tried a really quick double RoA build? I did: doran's shield + hp cata boots 1 SS RoA sorcerer's cata RoA GA zhonya and it worked surprisingly well. This is the kind of build I use now that I saw utah do it ingame  cept I go SS before boots 1, and zhonya before GA. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I used the build because I wasn't able to farm, wasn't inclined to farm (heavy fighting), and I was doing some nasty initiating all game so I needed to be able to survive and last a while. For instance, when we tried to initiate mid I literally waltzed through their whole team, and when I was told we didn't truly engage yet because they weren't bunched, I jumped onto their Corki and snared him, FORCING their team to bunch up. I also survived that fight. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
[3:30:39] nightseternal: so my belief is that [3:30:54] nightseternal: it's not even possible to stalemate a lane with kassadin against a good ranged dps player [3:31:36] nightseternal: cuz basically [3:31:38] nightseternal: for a minute [3:31:46] nightseternal: they just push you back from creep [3:31:51] nightseternal: while last-hitting [3:31:56] nightseternal: and they'll inevitably get whittled down [3:32:02] nightseternal: from your Q + all thec reep hitting them [3:32:12] nightseternal: but if you're good, like regi, smgzy, and a lot of such players [3:32:17] nightseternal: all you do is chug potions [3:32:22] nightseternal: while abusing this minute or so of lasting-hitting [3:32:24] nightseternal: then you go back [3:32:32] Shakedrizzle: yea he backed so many times [3:32:36] Shakedrizzle: and had like 4 pots [3:32:37] nightseternal: and during this period the threat of your tower being pushed is next to nil cuz kassadin can't actually push the creep [3:32:41] nightseternal: and if kassadin backs [3:32:43] nightseternal: he backs with no gold [3:32:48] nightseternal: so the only way for kass to stay even [3:32:54] nightseternal: is to take adv of absence and last-hit,which is why i did [3:32:58] nightseternal: but eventually he just out-lasted me [3:33:06] nightseternal: by nature of his 4 backs vs my one while i tried to finish farming cat [3:33:13] nightseternal: and finally when i finished cat i started demolishing him but [3:33:19] nightseternal: by that opint it looked like 100 vs 40 cs | ||
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