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Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
March 04 2011 20:51 GMT
#121
Last time I played gangplank, I noticed his deny triggers TF's gold bonus passive.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 21:20:19
March 04 2011 21:18 GMT
#122
On March 04 2011 12:21 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 06:51 spinesheath wrote:
Afaik you can simply treat Lifesteal as an on-hit effect that heals X% of physical damage dealt and everything is covered.

The secondary bounces on Sivir's Ricochet will lifesteal but do not proc on-hit effects.


It's because spell vamp and life steal are not on hit effects but are healing effects.

hmm now want to try out if his deny does work with warmogs/BT's. o_o
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 04 2011 21:21 GMT
#123
IIRC life steal isn't healing effect (it isn't countered by ignite)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 21:38:01
March 04 2011 21:36 GMT
#124
It is afaik. Ignite like demolishes irelia since it stops both her w (passive healing) and her r (lifesteal) from healing her so much, which is what helps make her so unkillable in some fights. Same can be said for champs like trist, MF, and gangplank who can cause 50% reduced healing effects similar to ignite.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 04 2011 21:39 GMT
#125
On March 05 2011 06:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
It is afaik. Ignite like demolishes irelia since it stops both her w (passive healing) and her r (lifesteal).

Neither of those are lifesteal--they're explicit heals that are part of the spells in question (e.g. Irelia's w heals a flat amount regardless of damage dealt).

Lifesteal is also not affected by Spirit Visage.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 21:52:58
March 04 2011 21:51 GMT
#126
On March 05 2011 06:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 06:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
It is afaik. Ignite like demolishes irelia since it stops both her w (passive healing) and her r (lifesteal).

Neither of those are lifesteal--they're explicit heals that are part of the spells in question (e.g. Irelia's w heals a flat amount regardless of damage dealt).

Lifesteal is also not affected by Spirit Visage.


Sorry, you're right there. Her r is healing as well, not lifesteal. But ignite does affect things like, healing from lvling up. I'm pretty sure it affects lifesteal as well. My really bad friend does a critplank build often and whenever he's ignited he just can't win since his whole strength is criting for like 1000 and lifestealing 500 every hit. When ignited he can't do this and dies pretty quickly. Unless ignite affects this I have no idea what to classify as lifesteal as other than perhaps healing with built in limitations in LoL game engine mechanics.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 04 2011 22:08 GMT
#127
On March 05 2011 06:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 12:21 TheYango wrote:
On February 16 2011 06:51 spinesheath wrote:
Afaik you can simply treat Lifesteal as an on-hit effect that heals X% of physical damage dealt and everything is covered.

The secondary bounces on Sivir's Ricochet will lifesteal but do not proc on-hit effects.


It's because spell vamp and life steal are not on hit effects but are healing effects.

hmm now want to try out if his deny does work with warmogs/BT's. o_o


Assuming you kill the minion Raise Morale does work with BT.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 04 2011 22:28 GMT
#128
On March 05 2011 06:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 06:39 TheYango wrote:
On March 05 2011 06:36 BlackPaladin wrote:
It is afaik. Ignite like demolishes irelia since it stops both her w (passive healing) and her r (lifesteal).

Neither of those are lifesteal--they're explicit heals that are part of the spells in question (e.g. Irelia's w heals a flat amount regardless of damage dealt).

Lifesteal is also not affected by Spirit Visage.


Sorry, you're right there. Her r is healing as well, not lifesteal. But ignite does affect things like, healing from lvling up. I'm pretty sure it affects lifesteal as well. My really bad friend does a critplank build often and whenever he's ignited he just can't win since his whole strength is criting for like 1000 and lifestealing 500 every hit. When ignited he can't do this and dies pretty quickly. Unless ignite affects this I have no idea what to classify as lifesteal as other than perhaps healing with built in limitations in LoL game engine mechanics.

No, it doesn't. Just tested in custom game, friend took sivir and i took MF, he farmed a BF and 3 scepters, healing was 45 both with and without MF's W applied on her.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 04 2011 22:29 GMT
#129
On February 16 2011 09:47 Brambled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 09:17 squintz wrote:
[image loading]


I will try this build out simply bc of the name "Jewplank"

its actually pretty legit
i do it alot
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 04 2011 22:40 GMT
#130
On March 05 2011 07:29 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 09:47 Brambled wrote:
On February 16 2011 09:17 squintz wrote:
[image loading]


I will try this build out simply bc of the name "Jewplank"

its actually pretty legit
i do it alot

That's vman7's ESL build lol
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 05 2011 00:18 GMT
#131
jassyp and I just tested it and without ignited I'd heal 10/hit but while ignited healed 5/hit.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 13:40:54
March 05 2011 13:39 GMT
#132
On March 05 2011 09:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
jassyp and I just tested it and without ignited I'd heal 10/hit but while ignited healed 5/hit.

Tested what? Lifesteal or Irelia's W? Her w is a healing effect and it's affected by healing reduction effects just like TheYango already posted? :-) Lifesteal is not a healing effect and it isn't affected by healing reduction/spirit visage

Just to be clear - Lifesteal is the thing you get from the following items: Doran's blade, Vampiric scepter, all upgrades of Vampiric scepter.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 05 2011 18:10 GMT
#133
lifesteal using vampiric scepter on sivir.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
March 05 2011 19:44 GMT
#134
Gangplank is even more broken on TT than he is on Rift because the lanes are so much longer. I like to queue up with a friend of mine and have him play a strong jungle ganker like Shaco or Nunu. I feel pretty bad for the fucker in my lane every time he has to face two level 2 champions while he's stuck at 1.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 07 2011 00:06 GMT
#135
On March 06 2011 04:44 exo6yte wrote:
Gangplank is even more broken on TT than he is on Rift because the lanes are so much longer. I like to queue up with a friend of mine and have him play a strong jungle ganker like Shaco or Nunu. I feel pretty bad for the fucker in my lane every time he has to face two level 2 champions while he's stuck at 1.

except u give up free liz with a gp.. denying.
then their jungler will have lizard+ gank when u overextend trying to kill the level 1 ..
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Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 18:42:34
March 11 2011 18:41 GMT
#136
MP5PL blues and MP5 yellows + tear = spam deny and parrley all game long. Build manamune for terrible terrible damage

And, don't forget to Raise Morale on Teemo's shroom forest and your baron ward.

Always a good idea.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 11 2011 18:46 GMT
#137
On March 12 2011 03:41 Pigsquirrel wrote:
And, don't forget to Raise Morale on Teemo's shroom forest and your baron ward.

Always Raise Morale on Tibbers the moment when Annie casts it.

Can't be giving the enemy free gold!
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 28 2011 14:18 GMT
#138
So has the GP build changed at all since his rework?
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 28 2011 22:26 GMT
#139
Just got GP so I'll bump again for Senx's question. I tried opening boots and pots, then going philo+HoG+Avarice. Finish yomumu's and then I had been planning on going triforce after that but the game didnt last that long. I had also gotten the cdr boots, since mercs didn't seem quite as necessary with his w. Seems like it would be decent in my head, but normals tend to end so quickly so it is hard to tell.

I also had a game where I had enough for warmogs on my first trip back, which is just too much fun to pass up. Teamfights ended up being: charge in, slowly kill one person, my whole team dies, i run away since they still can't kill me. Oh, and I had been maxing w in lane for even more fun times. Once you finish atmas after warmogs you are actually pretty strong, but the game was already lost at that point.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 07 2011 10:57 GMT
#140
On May 28 2011 23:18 Senx wrote:
So has the GP build changed at all since his rework?

Caller build best build
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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