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Allred
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
October 15 2015 22:39 GMT
#81
nothing about the widow mine. Most OP unit in the game
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Spirit_76
Profile Joined October 2015
8 Posts
October 15 2015 22:50 GMT
#82
we shouldnt buy this game.

these feedbacks are a waste of time.

blizzard is not listening, the game has A LOT of issues and they say the game is fine!! wtf???

i think pvz is in a terrible state, i think lukers are op, so is parasite bomb.
msc should be removed.
the new chronoboost sucks.
disruptors are terrible, maybe the worst unit ever.
the adept was suppossed to be a core unit, and its a useless unit vs zerg and vs terran is good very early game, then again its useless.

protoss is a mess, now with this feeback i have lost all hope of this game being better.
they wont change a thing.
this beta was a waste of time, no changed on the economy, why not try something different?? why not try 8 workers instead of 12?? why not???
why not try more thing on MM??
why not try more things with protoss??

its really sad, nothing has change, LOTV will be boring as HOTS after maybe 1 year.

AND NOTHING ABOUT THE CHAT SYSTEM, blizzard is lost.
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
October 15 2015 23:10 GMT
#83
Yeah... I'm not buying this game
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 23:24:45
October 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#84
On October 16 2015 07:11 [PkF] Wire wrote: I think it's a huge downgrade from HotS.


LotV is different enough from HotS upon release that it gives consumers a real choice between 2 decently supported RTS games. And LotV will only get more and more different from HotS as Blizz has promised at WCS-Poland and as they will outline at Blizzcon.

so i'm a happy camper and looking forward to November 10th.

On October 16 2015 02:50 WrathSCII wrote:
Infestor
The main goal for the Infestor is not to have the unit see play in every single game of every matchup, but we want this caster to be powerful in specific strategies or scenarios.

i hope this is where the infestor ends up... as a highly specialized spell caster

On October 16 2015 02:50 WrathSCII wrote:Highest level pros generally don’t play in the beta as we’ve seen in both LotV and HotS betas

what about Avilo?
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Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
October 15 2015 23:16 GMT
#85
On October 16 2015 07:50 Spirit_76 wrote:
AND NOTHING ABOUT THE CHAT SYSTEM, blizzard is lost.


I agree. I heard LoL is a good game. You can try that now.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
October 15 2015 23:35 GMT
#86
"Why isn't thing that I lost to fixed yet" the thread
Beliskner
Profile Joined August 2015
111 Posts
October 15 2015 23:42 GMT
#87
On October 16 2015 07:50 Spirit_76 wrote:
we shouldnt buy this game.



On October 16 2015 08:10 CptMarvel wrote:
Yeah... I'm not buying this game


Good, just STFU and just go away then.

Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
October 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#88
On October 16 2015 05:48 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
For example, the days when if Terran did not stop Zerg before getting Ultras + Dark Swarm it was GG.


Terran would transition into mech as a resposponse.


Not sure if you realize i was referring to BW, but unless u are talking about spider mines, mech can't do anything to an ultra with dark swarm.

Anyway, my point was, I think DK implementing strategies that are near possible to beat if a race gets to late game, is to emulate the reason people figured out such strict timings in BW over the years.
Espartaquen
Profile Joined September 2015
88 Posts
October 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#89
Day9, hope when your game comes out it becomes the best rts out there, i hope it becomes a great esport and I hope that finally blizzard learns their lesson, we need another company to make another rts that can rival sc2, otherwise we are going to keep getting the same shitty game we just play because there is no other like it.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1918 Posts
October 16 2015 00:07 GMT
#90
On October 16 2015 07:30 FLuE wrote:
Seriously how many times have they said in these community updates, "We heard your feedback..." and I know it is going to be followed by a change that HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT FEEDBACK.


Kinda feel the same about these updates now, and I personally think as well that this beta period for LotV is a huge series of disappointments, wrong moves and missed opportunities, which leaves me as uninterested in the upcoming multiplayer as I've never been throughout SC2's lifecycle.

Of course Blizzard has to sell a product so them acting positively about the state of the game is understandable, but honestly, I'm tired of hearing big promises again leaving players deluded and disappointed, of course they will continue to balance multiplayer after release, but that's something I expect them to do regardless of this whole PR.

As a huge Blizzard fan over the years I certainly noticed a change in their business policy, and unfortunately not for the better, I fear, feels a lot more like "cash grab" nowadays and LotV with that pushed release date greatly lines up with that. They could and should've done so much more with this beta, instead they've spend months over re-re-half-reverting macro mechanics, yet possible economy changes (or reverts) were out of the picture RIGHT off the bat...

What happened to "the game is done, when it's done"?

I miss those days.
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WhaleOFaTale
Profile Joined June 2014
46 Posts
October 16 2015 00:08 GMT
#91
LONG LIVE HOTS! Join me SC lovers!

In Troy the movie fashion "I say we make them [LOTV dominance], wait a little longer!"

Or until LOTV has some serious changes
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 16 2015 00:09 GMT
#92
All the whiners are basically acting like Christopher Guest in this scene from This Is Spinal Tap.

WhaleOFaTale
Profile Joined June 2014
46 Posts
October 16 2015 00:10 GMT
#93
On October 16 2015 09:07 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 07:30 FLuE wrote:
Seriously how many times have they said in these community updates, "We heard your feedback..." and I know it is going to be followed by a change that HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT FEEDBACK.


Kinda feel the same about these updates now, and I personally think as well that this beta period for LotV is a huge series of disappointments, wrong moves and missed opportunities, which leaves me as uninterested in the upcoming multiplayer as I've never been throughout SC2's lifecycle.

Of course Blizzard has to sell a product so them acting positively about the state of the game is understandable, but honestly, I'm tired of hearing big promises again leaving players deluded and disappointed, of course they will continue to balance multiplayer after release, but that's something I expect them to do regardless of this whole PR.

As a huge Blizzard fan over the years I certainly noticed a change in their business policy, and unfortunately not for the better, I fear, feels a lot more like "cash grab" nowadays and LotV with that pushed release date greatly lines up with that. They could and should've done so much more with this beta, instead they've spend months over re-re-half-reverting macro mechanics, yet possible economy changes (or reverts) were out of the picture RIGHT off the bat...

What happened to "the game is done, when it's done"?

I miss those days.


Couldn't agree more. This expansion needs ATLEAST another 6 months of work, but they HAVE TO HAVE IT RELEASED AT BLIZZCON. I don't know if it blizzard making these greedy moves, or the work of their owner-activision
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
October 16 2015 00:18 GMT
#94
100% what avilo said. Five moths BETA for this??? I expected much more. Preordered HotS, but still wont do it with LotV. 33 year SC player since 2002. Disappointed seem so little said. I need much more from this game. I have seen them let the "BL/infestor" era exist and they were saying the balance is "50/50". WTF??? The game was unplayeble I almost abandoned. More then one year without ladder in WoL. Hots came and I was waiting for finally see TvP mech happen. Crazy Warhound disappear( thanks god) and the game remain the same for another three years in TvP at pro level: BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO..

How can an employee(DK) announce some objectives(make Mech in TvP viable) for the new game(Hots) , not do it and still keep his job??? WTF? What kind of boss does he got? I want him. Doing my job so fucking bad, fail so loud, everybody sees it every single day and nothing matters??? REALLY? What are you doing people?

You want me to play LoL or some CoD? CS? Why dont just give up and let the game to sombody else. 10.11.2015 will be the last SC game in history. One year ago there were 10 000 viewers for Demuslim. Today we got barely 1000...90% less. You want to tell me the game is balance because my ladder is 50/50? REALLY?? I am Diamond. I die to master y high Diamond, but crush Low and mid Diamond. How could my wirate not being 50/50? Its impossible. When you win too much you face better enemies. When you lose too much, you face worse. So you keep there.

Watch the fucking streams Blizz. Avilo no hands victory with BL/Viper or mass carriers. Five featured SC streamers?? How is it possible there are ALWAYS more BW streamers than SC2?? Is this normal?

Imagine everybody got iphone9 in the shop, but preffer to buy the iphone1. Is this normal? SHAME blizz SHAME. Thank you very much for fucking the best RTS in the world. Will be waiting to buy LotV when its only 10€ or less only to play the campaign and will be waiting for ATLAS.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1918 Posts
October 16 2015 00:23 GMT
#95
On October 16 2015 09:10 WhaleOFaTale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 09:07 Creager wrote:
On October 16 2015 07:30 FLuE wrote:
Seriously how many times have they said in these community updates, "We heard your feedback..." and I know it is going to be followed by a change that HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT FEEDBACK.


Kinda feel the same about these updates now, and I personally think as well that this beta period for LotV is a huge series of disappointments, wrong moves and missed opportunities, which leaves me as uninterested in the upcoming multiplayer as I've never been throughout SC2's lifecycle.

Of course Blizzard has to sell a product so them acting positively about the state of the game is understandable, but honestly, I'm tired of hearing big promises again leaving players deluded and disappointed, of course they will continue to balance multiplayer after release, but that's something I expect them to do regardless of this whole PR.

As a huge Blizzard fan over the years I certainly noticed a change in their business policy, and unfortunately not for the better, I fear, feels a lot more like "cash grab" nowadays and LotV with that pushed release date greatly lines up with that. They could and should've done so much more with this beta, instead they've spend months over re-re-half-reverting macro mechanics, yet possible economy changes (or reverts) were out of the picture RIGHT off the bat...

What happened to "the game is done, when it's done"?

I miss those days.


Couldn't agree more. This expansion needs ATLEAST another 6 months of work, but they HAVE TO HAVE IT RELEASED AT BLIZZCON. I don't know if it blizzard making these greedy moves, or the work of their owner-activision


Don't know, though activision sure plays it's part in that.

Unlike their cash cows (formerly) WoW and (now) Hearthstone SC2 is all about single copies sold so their incentive isn't too great to postpone a release any further, especially with singleplayer done already (roughly 50% of the playerbase/customers buy SC2 solely for the campaign).

But by doing that they approvingly accept potential harm to their hardcore player base (essentially us, who probably will be the only ones left still playing this game in a few years).
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
October 16 2015 00:25 GMT
#96
On October 16 2015 05:48 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
For example, the days when if Terran did not stop Zerg before getting Ultras + Dark Swarm it was GG.


Terran would transition into mech as a resposponse.


mass science vessel was pretty good vs defilers and ultras, playing SK terran was still viable against ultra ling defiler
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 00:29:41
October 16 2015 00:28 GMT
#97
How is this game coming out in less than a month? It clearly needs 3 to 6 months. It's clearly a collection of half measures.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 01:26:49
October 16 2015 00:56 GMT
#98
On October 16 2015 07:32 sd_andeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 06:06 Beliskner wrote:
On October 16 2015 04:44 HomeWorld wrote:
On October 16 2015 03:08 Cyro wrote:
On October 16 2015 03:07 Aquila- wrote:
Wait they are talking about BUFFING adepts? What the actual fuck? Warp prism + adept is still incredibly broken vs Terran and they havent even talked about warpprism...


Adepts are hilariously weak at the moment. They're bad in the early game and useless in the later stages of the game - everyone is using stalkers and zealots instead and we all know how well they work against stimmed bio without tech unit support.


Adepts are quite good during very early game, I don't even need to mention (for PvT) the very early natural mining denial capability (mostly due to adept's big health pool + high dps + innate spell); why use stalkers when you have a far better option?! Then there's the full warp prism + 4-6+ warp gates backed adept harass, again, this hits quite early too, and usually it can wreak havoc if terran is slightly out of position (trying to drop for example), or, for whatever reason not having a proper mineral line defense (oO). Also, I don't even want to think about the upgrade ...
Anyway, if properly played , adepts can cause terran a very serious economical setback , to the point where you only need to mass adepts during mid game and still be in a good shape (aka win the game)
This is only for PvT , for PvZ it doesn't matter since queens are so good at everything.
All in all, adepts are hilariously good at this moment, to the point where Warhounds, in retrospect, were just little silly toys.


Actually most people ARE using the stalker. Adepts do not have high HP atm. Its less than a stalker. They also only have decent dps vs light.
No one is 'massing' adepts in the midgame, they aren't hilariously good at all. Better than warhounds? Mate do you even play the game?
Every time things get nerfed it takes like 2 months before these people who complain about shit and seemily haven't even played the new patch to realise the meta has shifted.

They could nerf it to 50/50 and you'd probably still whine about it.


It's funny how he whines about an adept drop 'while dropping as terran'. I don't think he realizes the devastation a 1-2 medivac drop can have on economy if you don't respond accordingly. If you don't respond to an adept drop, and you're out of position, you deserve losing your entire mineral line. Such a weird whine.


People are very out of touch after being used to bio strength for 5.5 years - they don't want a rebalanced bio or for protoss to have the same capabilities without relying on tier 2.5 - 3.5 units.

Bio destroys gateway when upgrades and higher supplies kick in and that's just a way of life - i had hoped that it would be changed in Legacy with rebalanced low and high tier options for both sides but it only partially happened. I think adept attack doing splash so it could be strong vs med-large numbers of low health units and weaker in lower numbers should have been there from the start
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
October 16 2015 01:19 GMT
#99
Another week, another disappointment, at least i don't expect better anymore.
No prejudices, i hate everyone equally.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
October 16 2015 01:48 GMT
#100
From the looks of it, LotV isn't going to bring old people back, or bring new people in. If anything, its going to drive people out who want Starcraft, not some MOBA BS where every unit needs to have a button, because that's the pinnacle of skill. On top of that, the game is still a mess, and there's only 3.5 weeks until release. I don't see this game saving SC2, or even slowing the decline for more than a few months.
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