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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
"1. PvZ lurker timing 2. Carrier strength after the build time nerfs 3. Siege tank drops in TvT 4. Potential revert to 10 shield nerf on Adept 5. Liberator anti ground range" Then the game is just HOTS + adept cheese. //I stand by calling it cheese because adepts are bad in 120 supply mid game trades but super strong at worker/warprism cheese plays | ||
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
I guess it's time to accept the game for what it is. I still have fun and I suppose as a fan I always want more, whether it's needed or not. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
DK: Don't worry. Our internal testings say the game is in a good state. I fear for the future of sc2. | ||
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jpg06051992
United States580 Posts
On October 16 2015 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: Community: the game is far from being ready for release. DK: Don't worry. Our internal testings say the game is in a good state. I fear for the future of sc2. this | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
The first few tournaments will be about balancing the game and some players will be rewarded for showing whats really broken. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
On October 16 2015 03:04 ROOTFayth wrote: next update will be "We decided to revert the game back to HOTS, enjoy" Imo that's the best thing that could happen to sc2 atm. | ||
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Clear World
125 Posts
On October 16 2015 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: Community: the game is far from being ready for release. DK: Don't worry. Our internal testings say the game is in a good state. I fear for the future of sc2. I'm going to say this one more time, you should really stop misinterpreting what they DK wrote. Near 50% win ratio in all match ups literally means, near 50% win ratio in all match ups. As long as there exist 1 method to win a match 50% of the time in any match-up, at any skill level, than it is at 50%. To put it in their words, balanced. It does not mean: good state, or most units are viable, or there are not strategies that feels unfun to play against, or fun or engaging game, or anything else for that matter. So people please, stop acting like they are saying the game is in a good state. They're not saying that nor are they focusing on that. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On October 16 2015 03:37 Charoisaur wrote: Imo that's the best thing that could happen to sc2 atm. as in we can finally move on to another game? :D | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
HAHAHAHAHAHA yes neural is so fucking powerful. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
He notices a problem with carriers in lategame but instead of fixing the problem he just makes it harder for protoss to get there. Hasn't he learned from BL/infestor that this makes for terrible ggameplay? Winrates might be 50/50 but the game will be extremely stale and boring. Also how can he not see a problem with parasitic bomb or ultras? You don't need statistics to realize how broken those are, even if winrates will be 50/50, having so overpowered things in the ggameis guaranteed to centralize the metagame to the point that every game will be zerg rushing to ultras or BL/viper. | ||
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Daizer
69 Posts
By the way takes years to tech in. Welcome back Roach vs Roach in ZvZ No really someone should fire David Kim | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On October 16 2015 02:55 SC2Angora wrote: My exact thoughts as well.No talk about 8 armor ultralisk and Parasitic bomb seriously ? | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On October 16 2015 03:35 RaFox17 wrote: The first few tournaments will be about balancing the game and some players will be rewarded for showing whats really broken. Yoda for another championship. | ||
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Daizer
69 Posts
On October 16 2015 04:09 ROOTFayth wrote: I wouldn't call disruptor a hard counter, it's the only unit that allows protoss not to get completely obliterated by lurker actually, unless you go skytoss, more aching to a soft counter imo 5 Disruptors are enough to force the Zerg into tech switch And its not fair because it cost alot of time to get lurkers out While massing Disruptors is easy as hell | ||
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TimeSpiral
United States1010 Posts
The game seems to be at a decent place now in terms of balance across all the skill levels currently within the beta I'm convinced that I have a near-zero understanding of this game. It feels so incredibly broken, atm, in both TvZ and TvP. Therefore, we’d like to revert the build time reduction change we did to Carriers for now, so that Carriers remain nearly as powerful as they are, but it is more of a risk to mass Carriers for Protoss players My hopes rose when they identified the problems, and then chose to nerf the build times ... ugh. So now Protoss will just play passive for slightly longer before they have an un-killable army composition? We’ll be looking to tune up the stats on the Adept a bit if need be, so please give us your feedback and thoughts on the Adept as well. I ate my shoe that the Adept is getting a buff. I now only have one shoe. Crazy to me that Ultra, Parasitic Bomb, and Liberator were not in this patch. And I only mention the Liberator because apparently Liberators destroy everyone except my opponents. So I guess they must be OP ... | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
Carrier build time is just pushing problems back. Waiting until people start using swarmhosts and infestors is pointless. Blizzard used to buff units and scale back if necessary, now they don't. It's probably just an excuse for not doing anything. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16095 Posts
On October 16 2015 04:15 TimeSpiral wrote: I'm convinced that David Kim has a near-zero understanding of this game. It feels so incredibly broken, atm, in both TvZ and TvP ... Fixed | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
Nerf ultra para bomb liber plox | ||
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