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On April 01 2015 23:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:35 Tenks wrote:
This disruptor harass on Nate's stream is hilarious. Drop off the Disruptor, have it kill 8+ SCV in one swoop then just run away. Like Reaver drops. Also, Tank Drops are now much more like Reaver Drops were in BW but they are quite hard to counter as Zerg though. Stephano just played great game against meching Terran, he was using Swarm Hosts and Lings only and harassed the crap out of Terran, he couldn't keep up with flying Locusts and Lings attacking everywhere. Then Terran did final push with Hellbats and Tanks and Stephano switched to 20+ Mutalisks. Definitely like new Swarm Hosts more than old ones.
Do queens not work well against tank drops? It may be Zergs now need to worry a bit more about creeping their entire base to let Queens be mobile for defense instead of immediately trying to spread it agressively. Dunno. Seems like the tanks wouldn't do enough damage (to the Queen) to get too much worth if the queens only focus on the medivac.
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Adept seems to be pretty good in small hitsquads and terrible en masse, which is very good.
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don't like the Adept, another gimmick unit that clearly excels at killing workers more than anything else. and it looks bad.
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On April 01 2015 23:38 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:37 leny100 wrote:On April 01 2015 23:35 Tenks wrote:
This disruptor harass on Nate's stream is hilarious. Drop off the Disruptor, have it kill 8+ SCV in one swoop then just run away. That reminds me of some units that terran has... I'm not here to balance whine I find it really fun to watch. The explosion caused by the Disruptor seems very, very satisfying.
Except if you whiff, or don't one-shot everything, you throw away 300 gas 
But...yeah, seeing it evaporate a bunch of units in an eye-blink is *incredibly* satisfying to watch hahahahaha
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I'm watching Rotti's stream and mass adept in PvP is a really bad idea,he lost a fight against an army that cost half of his own.
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On April 01 2015 23:46 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:38 Tenks wrote:On April 01 2015 23:37 leny100 wrote:On April 01 2015 23:35 Tenks wrote:
This disruptor harass on Nate's stream is hilarious. Drop off the Disruptor, have it kill 8+ SCV in one swoop then just run away. That reminds me of some units that terran has... I'm not here to balance whine I find it really fun to watch. The explosion caused by the Disruptor seems very, very satisfying. Except if you whiff, or don't one-shot everything, you throw away 300 gas But...yeah, seeing it evaporate a bunch of units in an eye-blink is *incredibly* satisfying to watch hahahahaha
It looked like you could get in and get out relatively safe. It appears since Vikings aren't so required in the matchup at the moment (this may change, dunno) it makes prism harass easier since the Terran doesn't have 6+ Vikings sitting around. With the ability to load at a distance it felt like Cyclones couldn't really deal with the Prism that well.
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good lord these tank drops
also imo protoss are the most fun watch atm.except when collosus are involved.blizzard pls
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Wow disruptors are amazing! (Maybe a bit too much but I really love them)
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On April 01 2015 23:42 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 01 2015 23:35 Tenks wrote:
This disruptor harass on Nate's stream is hilarious. Drop off the Disruptor, have it kill 8+ SCV in one swoop then just run away. Like Reaver drops. Also, Tank Drops are now much more like Reaver Drops were in BW but they are quite hard to counter as Zerg though. Stephano just played great game against meching Terran, he was using Swarm Hosts and Lings only and harassed the crap out of Terran, he couldn't keep up with flying Locusts and Lings attacking everywhere. Then Terran did final push with Hellbats and Tanks and Stephano switched to 20+ Mutalisks. Definitely like new Swarm Hosts more than old ones. Do queens not work well against tank drops? It may be Zergs now need to worry a bit more about creeping their entire base to let Queens be mobile for defense instead of immediately trying to spread it agressively. Dunno. Seems like the tanks wouldn't do enough damage (to the Queen) to get too much worth if the queens only focus on the medivac.
The thing is you aren't getting close to the Queens for them to be able to shoot. For example, you do dual Medivac Tank drops, you drop 2 Tanks and shoot once at the Queen, get them back and kite the Queen(s), abuse the cliffs, chokes, their own sim city etc.
One Tank drop isn't that scary, but when you do more it gets pretty brutal, I've seen Nathanias completely demolish some Zergs with 3 Medivac + 3 Tanks.
About Adepts, I didn't really like the idea that much the first time I've seen the unit and first thing that crossed my mind was "Protoss Reaper!" and people currently really play out with them like that... Make 1-2 early for scouting and harassing and that is about it. They cost too much, are way too slow(without shade) and attack slowly even though they have solid damage. They do great against light units and get destroyed by armored and air units. I think that they will change them pretty soon, it just doesn't do much.
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On April 01 2015 23:21 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:16 swag_bro wrote:
Got into the beta. This is a pretty good game. I like much better than hots. Maybe Blizzard recognizes you as a personality now, much wow
Jealous?
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On April 02 2015 00:11 swag_bro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:21 OtherWorld wrote:On April 01 2015 23:16 swag_bro wrote:
Got into the beta. This is a pretty good game. I like much better than hots. Maybe Blizzard recognizes you as a personality now, much wow Jealous?
Not at all ; I humbly recognize that I haven't done nearly as much as you for SC2 and its community
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Does anyone else find the Disruptor to just be like a less entertaining version of the reaver? Maybe I'm being too harsh, but to me it really seems like it's somehow missing something.
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are the changes to the collosus real?
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On April 02 2015 00:16 Response wrote:
Does anyone else find the Disruptor to just be like a less entertaining version of the reaver? Maybe I'm being too harsh, but to me it really seems like it's somehow missing something.
LeZael had a really good idea about the Disruptor, to make it more unique. I believe it was something like, the disruptor only deals damage when he is moving.
On April 02 2015 00:18 Magggrig wrote:
are the changes to the collosus real?
I think that they do this primarily to make people use the disruptor instead, it will probably get reduced for the final game?
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On April 01 2015 23:37 leny100 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 23:35 Tenks wrote:
This disruptor harass on Nate's stream is hilarious. Drop off the Disruptor, have it kill 8+ SCV in one swoop then just run away. That reminds me of some units that terran has...
Oh, and it did not remind you about storm drop as well? 
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I hope the Colossus changes are a precursor to that unit being removed. Should have happened 5 years ago but better late than never.
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On April 02 2015 00:19 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2015 00:16 Response wrote:
Does anyone else find the Disruptor to just be like a less entertaining version of the reaver? Maybe I'm being too harsh, but to me it really seems like it's somehow missing something. LeZael had a really good idea about the Disruptor, to make it more unique. I believe it was something like, the disruptor only deals damage when he is moving. I think that they do this primarily to make people use the disruptor instead, it will probably get reduced for the final game?
I fail to see what only dealing damage while moving would change. If the opponent is reacting you're moving anyway and if he's not you can just spam move commands near the disruptor.
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I'm not sure how I feel about the disruptor at this point. I'm worried it might head down the path of the warhound.
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On April 02 2015 00:21 PrideSc2 wrote:
I'm not sure how I feel about the disruptor at this point. I'm worried it might head down the path of the warhound.
I'm pretty sure it won't. The concept is interesting, the numbers could be tweaked but I'm ready to bet the final version will have a disruptor that'll be pretty close concept wise to what we have now.
I wouldn't say the same about the ravager, the adept and the cyclone. I could see all those units going through big changes during the beta and ending up being quite different.
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On April 02 2015 00:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2015 00:19 OtherWorld wrote:On April 02 2015 00:16 Response wrote:
Does anyone else find the Disruptor to just be like a less entertaining version of the reaver? Maybe I'm being too harsh, but to me it really seems like it's somehow missing something. LeZael had a really good idea about the Disruptor, to make it more unique. I believe it was something like, the disruptor only deals damage when he is moving. On April 02 2015 00:18 Magggrig wrote:
are the changes to the collosus real? I think that they do this primarily to make people use the disruptor instead, it will probably get reduced for the final game? I fail to see what only dealing damage while moving would change. If the opponent is reacting you're moving anyway and if he's not you can just spam move commands near the disruptor.
Well I'll quote his post :
- Better version of the Disruptor
- High skill involved , high reward.
- Creates interesting micro battles.
- Has multiple functions , can harass workers , provides map and area control.
- Less one-shot-wonders hits like the disruptor.
- Introduces new mechanics with a controllable
- Reduces enemy splash units power.
from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/legacy-of-the-void/481156-competition-design-a-lotv-terran-unit?page=15#298
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