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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 24 2018 18:54 GMT
#41
I think you make stopwatch cost less, not be free. 600 gold is so much.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 24 2018 19:06 GMT
#42
Is it time again for Face of the MountainRemnant of the Aspect to be the new hidden OP? It looks surprisingly solid on a tanky supportish jungler that would have liked to build Sightstone if it didn't mean throwing away 800 gold. Now you're paying 1900 gold for a sightstone, 500 HP, and 10% CDR (not to mention the gold gen + gold sharing).
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
January 24 2018 19:40 GMT
#43
On January 25 2018 04:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Is it time again for Face of the MountainRemnant of the Aspect to be the new hidden OP? It looks surprisingly solid on a tanky supportish jungler that would have liked to build Sightstone if it didn't mean throwing away 800 gold. Now you're paying 1900 gold for a sightstone, 500 HP, and 10% CDR (not to mention the gold gen + gold sharing).

There's already a thread on r/RivenMains about it being worth trying out.

On January 25 2018 03:54 iCanada wrote:
I think you make stopwatch cost less, not be free. 600 gold is so much.

He said sold for free. You can currently sell the Stopwatch for 180.

On January 24 2018 21:41 Numy wrote:
Pretty big nerfs to magical footwear rune
Show nested quote +
Magical Footwear (I3)
Free boots arrival time increased from 10 min to 12 min
Takedowns time reduction increased from 30s to 45s
[Removed] No longer costs 50 gold less to upgrade to other boots.

This may just kill the rune for me. Can't really justify it on the island of top lane when could just see 1 kill and no longer getting discount on t2 is pretty big.

Pushing the arrival time back seems like a poor choice to me. Would make more sense to reduce the takedown time refund to me.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 20:19:54
January 24 2018 20:16 GMT
#44
Yea all it really does it make the rune even more variable. Now the fail case vs win case is so so huge. Don't like that style of balancing.

Hey look there's a new Hashinshin video with a bunch of manchilds whining. How did that guy become the voice of the people. This is more crazy than Trump being the president. Are we just in the period of history where massive jokes become serious business to people?
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
January 24 2018 20:16 GMT
#45
It sells for 120, not 180. Still not bad when runes like mirror shell or iron skin mostly give around 100-120 gold worth of stats.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
January 24 2018 20:26 GMT
#46
On January 25 2018 05:16 NpG)Explosive wrote:
It sells for 120, not 180. Still not bad when runes like mirror shell or iron skin mostly give around 100-120 gold worth of stats.

You right.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
January 24 2018 21:23 GMT
#47
On January 25 2018 00:31 AlterKot wrote:
TIL noone here understands basic laning.

Hear hear.

But yeah I agree that I'm surprised about the things being said here. Thought most of these things were pretty common knowledge.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 24 2018 21:51 GMT
#48
Now that jungle items and support items are mutually exclusive they need to drop the shoehorned as fuck xp bonus from talisman/machete so you have a choice.
Carrilord has arrived.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 21:52:46
January 24 2018 21:52 GMT
#49
On January 25 2018 06:23 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 00:31 AlterKot wrote:
TIL noone here understands basic laning.

Hear hear.

But yeah I agree that I'm surprised about the things being said here. Thought most of these things were pretty common knowledge.


Apparently it's not a big deal so maybe people didn't know because it's not a big deal.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
January 24 2018 21:52 GMT
#50
On January 25 2018 06:51 Slusher wrote:
Now that jungle items and support items are mutually exclusive they need to drop the shoehorned as fuck xp bonus from talisman/machete so you have a choice.

You know they won't because "the jungle items are the jungle items and the support items are the support items."
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 24 2018 21:55 GMT
#51
I mean weather or not they do it for the love of god bake it into Ivern passive
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 21:57:58
January 24 2018 21:57 GMT
#52
On January 25 2018 06:52 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 06:23 Fildun wrote:
On January 25 2018 00:31 AlterKot wrote:
TIL noone here understands basic laning.

Hear hear.

But yeah I agree that I'm surprised about the things being said here. Thought most of these things were pretty common knowledge.

https://twitter.com/RiotPhreak/status/956261368709066752
Apparently it's not a big deal so maybe people didn't know because it's not a big deal.


For Cassio I’m not surprised as optimal dPS at low levels is to cancel an auto animation with your e. But I’m very surprised by kassadin.
Carrilord has arrived.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 22:06:02
January 24 2018 22:03 GMT
#53
On January 25 2018 06:51 Slusher wrote:
Now that jungle items and support items are mutually exclusive they need to drop the shoehorned as fuck xp bonus from talisman/machete so you have a choice.

Are they actually? I know that was on PBE but I don't think that made it to live.

On January 25 2018 05:16 Numy wrote:
Yea all it really does it make the rune even more variable. Now the fail case vs win case is so so huge. Don't like that style of balancing.

Hey look there's a new Hashinshin video with a bunch of manchilds whining. How did that guy become the voice of the people. This is more crazy than Trump being the president. Are we just in the period of history where massive jokes become serious business to people?

Streamer fanboys brigading threads have an incredible ability to shape reddit perception

*cough* LS
On January 25 2018 04:40 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 04:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Is it time again for Face of the MountainRemnant of the Aspect to be the new hidden OP? It looks surprisingly solid on a tanky supportish jungler that would have liked to build Sightstone if it didn't mean throwing away 800 gold. Now you're paying 1900 gold for a sightstone, 500 HP, and 10% CDR (not to mention the gold gen + gold sharing).

There's already a thread on r/RivenMains about it being worth trying out.

One, that sounds idiotic, and two, if it's remotely viable on Riven it'll be hella broken on any jungler that actually cares about the sightstone/HP.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
January 24 2018 22:19 GMT
#54
On January 25 2018 05:16 Numy wrote:
Yea all it really does it make the rune even more variable. Now the fail case vs win case is so so huge. Don't like that style of balancing.

Hey look there's a new Hashinshin video with a bunch of manchilds whining. How did that guy become the voice of the people. This is more crazy than Trump being the president. Are we just in the period of history where massive jokes become serious business to people?

He do have a point about why top sucks right now and how Meddler's post is just PR bullshit.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 22:29:46
January 24 2018 22:27 GMT
#55
Does top suck? Every point I've heard him raise mostly sounds like whining about being unable to play the exact same champ pool in the exact same way every season. Sounds like a man that just wishes it was red pot ignite win lane win game. Completely ignoring laning is a very small section of actually playing a full league of legends game. Very good players don't lose to bad auto-filled top laners. Stalling lane doesn't matter since the good player just uses his presence on the map to enable his team. Just look at the stats. Tanks aren't even good in solo Q yet that's the focus of all the rage?

Essentially his whole premise is flawed. There may be issues in the game right now but it's blown so far out of proportion by certain voices in the community that use there fanbases to stir hysteria. This mimics the whole "adc2017" spam that happened last year. The role was never weak in 2017 but that's the narrative that formed. So while changes do need to happen, there's no real point in being so crazy over the top lane balance or expecting a massive overhaul to come undernight. Meddler posts his thoughts, which people have been asking for, while they evaluate the problem. If they rushed out some changes there would be an even bigger backlash so instead you get some insight in to how they perceive things. How is that a bad thing?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
January 24 2018 22:27 GMT
#56
but why would you take the sightstone item as a jungler (which you only getter after completing the quest) when you can just get the warding smite?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
January 24 2018 22:31 GMT
#57
On January 25 2018 07:03 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 06:51 Slusher wrote:
Now that jungle items and support items are mutually exclusive they need to drop the shoehorned as fuck xp bonus from talisman/machete so you have a choice.

Are they actually? I know that was on PBE but I don't think that made it to live.

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 05:16 Numy wrote:
Yea all it really does it make the rune even more variable. Now the fail case vs win case is so so huge. Don't like that style of balancing.

Hey look there's a new Hashinshin video with a bunch of manchilds whining. How did that guy become the voice of the people. This is more crazy than Trump being the president. Are we just in the period of history where massive jokes become serious business to people?

Streamer fanboys brigading threads have an incredible ability to shape reddit perception

*cough* LS
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 04:40 Gahlo wrote:
On January 25 2018 04:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Is it time again for Face of the MountainRemnant of the Aspect to be the new hidden OP? It looks surprisingly solid on a tanky supportish jungler that would have liked to build Sightstone if it didn't mean throwing away 800 gold. Now you're paying 1900 gold for a sightstone, 500 HP, and 10% CDR (not to mention the gold gen + gold sharing).

There's already a thread on r/RivenMains about it being worth trying out.

One, that sounds idiotic, and two, if it's remotely viable on Riven it'll be hella broken on any jungler that actually cares about the sightstone/HP.

The trends they had running was a split between Spellbook and Klepto. With the nerf to Klepto, supposedly, abusing the Bandit passive provides more gold.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 23:10:04
January 24 2018 23:09 GMT
#58
On January 25 2018 07:27 Ansibled wrote:
but why would you take the sightstone item as a jungler (which you only getter after completing the quest) when you can just get the warding smite?

In pro play, having 6 wards per back instead of 2 is certainly going to be helpful. And in solo queue, maybe you just want blue/red smite. The point is that the item isn't a gigantic waste of gold like the Sightstone items used to be.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
January 25 2018 01:44 GMT
#59
On January 24 2018 08:53 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 08:52 Nemireck wrote:
Targeted damaging spells draw minion aggro.

Champions with spammable targeted spells, like Pantheon and Cassiopeia, put opposing laners in an awkward position: fight back and draw minion aggro, or just take the punishment they hand out. Changing this mechanic will make those champions a lot more intuitive to play against, as well as easier to balance.


I never noticed that this wasn't already the case.

What in the actual fuck... Why would damaging spells NOT draw aggro... Ever?!

Rito plz.

I'm honestly not sure how it's possible to play the game and not notice, lol.


In my case it's because I always, ALWAYS follow up my spells with an auto, or I'm already leaving minion range while the spell animation goes off.

It was always my assumption that it was something to be wary of, I never did any research that highlighted that fact otherwise, and so it was always something I figured I was working around through my lane movements naturally.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2018 02:57 GMT
#60
On January 25 2018 07:03 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 06:51 Slusher wrote:
Now that jungle items and support items are mutually exclusive they need to drop the shoehorned as fuck xp bonus from talisman/machete so you have a choice.

Are they actually? I know that was on PBE but I don't think that made it to live.


Turns out it didn't actually go thru (Please buff ivern in this way anyway)
Carrilord has arrived.
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