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United States37500 Posts
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Patch 7.19: Live on Sept. 27th, 2017
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/us/featured/champion-reveal-evelynn
Weird kit, the charm is interesting but the rest feels unnecessarily complicated. Her ult is probably a huge noob trap.
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Evelynn certainly feels more thematic now with the charm mechanic. She also now shifts from the pre-6 jungler team to the post-6 jungler team, given how strong her level 6 spike is now.
On September 27 2017 04:40 Sent. wrote:
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon.
Alternatively, it's the opportunity to make really odd statements, like how Riot should get rid of smite steals because they're "cheap" and, I guess, late game objective fights are just too exciting for some of us.
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I just consider anything between the notes link being posted and the thread being posted fair game for a straight repost
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New Eve ult seems awkward. If you use it to damage someone, you end up disengaging from them. It looks to be an execute ability that you have to calculate very carefully because if you mess up they're guaranteed to get away. Very different to say Kayn who ults you and then has the ability to finish you off afterwards if he needs to.
Her ganks look pretty dope strong though, even if they're projected in advance.
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On September 27 2017 04:42 GrandInquisitor wrote:Evelynn certainly feels more thematic now with the charm mechanic. She also now shifts from the pre-6 jungler team to the post-6 jungler team, given how strong her level 6 spike is now. Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 04:40 Sent. wrote:
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon. Alternatively, it's the opportunity to make really odd statements, like how Riot should get rid of smite steals because they're "cheap" and, I guess, late game objective fights are just too exciting for some of us.
Who's that genius that hates smite steals? Terrible mechanic that has no place in a competitive game
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On September 27 2017 04:40 Sent. wrote:
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon.
He used to be faster. Cue passion memes.
Stacked Guinsoo's is dumb, and Riot decided to make it so tanks have huge bursts of shields/bonus health rather than being generically resilient, so you can't chunk them out meaningfully then retreat, and the start of fights is often a slugfest is a squishy doesn't get caught, which I assume gives more time to stack Guinsoo's effect and then annihilate people as soon as the temporary buff expires.
That Xin update is weird, they're shitting pretty hard on both his damage and stickiness (q basically needs 260 bonus AD to deal as much damage as before, late game, and he loses ArPen), is the ult worth it?
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Why don't they just make Eve's ult like Zed's and make the blink optional (reactivate to blink back)? Really hate forced displacements on execute abilities.
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United States37500 Posts
On September 27 2017 04:56 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 04:40 Sent. wrote:
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon. He used to be faster. Cue passion memes. Stacked Guinsoo's is dumb, and Riot decided to make it so tanks have huge bursts of shields/bonus health rather than being generically resilient, so you can't chunk them out meaningfully then retreat, and the start of fights is often a slugfest is a squishy doesn't get caught, which I assume gives more time to stack Guinsoo's effect and then annihilate people as soon as the temporary buff expires.
Patch notes haven't even been out an hour... this is pretty par on course for me, for the past 3-4 years.
Alaric, I am disappoint.
Also, I've never implemented a no repost policy on LL. It's literally never been an issue. So like what's been echoed so far, if I happen to cut your post/conversation short due to new thread, please excuse me and just copy over and carry on your talks. ezpz.
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Look, with RWARWARWA, Smash and other old guys gone, I'm basically old guard here, veteran and all. I remember the Neo from before 4 years ago, I was here when Chiharu's murder was investigated, I know how you used to be. Please, Neo, don't tell me you've forgotten. Don't twist the knife.
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On September 27 2017 04:56 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 04:40 Sent. wrote:
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon. He used to be faster. Cue passion memes. Stacked Guinsoo's is dumb, and Riot decided to make it so tanks have huge bursts of shields/bonus health rather than being generically resilient, so you can't chunk them out meaningfully then retreat, and the start of fights is often a slugfest is a squishy doesn't get caught, which I assume gives more time to stack Guinsoo's effect and then annihilate people as soon as the temporary buff expires. That Xin update is weird, they're shitting pretty hard on both his damage and stickiness (q basically needs 260 bonus AD to deal as much damage as before, late game, and he loses ArPen), is the ult worth it?
Oh, someone read my post. Everyone trying their best to prove they read the previous thread.
I agree with the burst tankiness, can see why Guinsoo would fit in with that. Imo Stoneplate should not be a staple tank pick, there needs to be a better downside on it other than just cutting damage. As it is now, the item elevates Cho and J4 to top tier picks because their mechanics allow them to circumvent the downside which other champs can't do. besides the fact it's incredibly frustrating when a Glory Cho runs at you, AA you a few times, hits Stoneplate and then laughs as you try to damage him and then ults you.
The lack of crit builds in bot lane just seems very unnatural.
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Eve looks interesting, don't know if good or bad but has some interesting stuff going on. Her skins all look pretty bad compared to base skin though. Expected a lot more from the visual rework there.
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I don't like that they removed Eve's stealth until level 6.
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The new Maquerade skin is pretty bad compared to current Eve's look in it, the colours are way different.
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I thought tango eve looks great, what's there to not like? It even gets rid of the base's dopey hairstyle that looks like a mix between vegeta and whipped cream.
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On September 27 2017 05:55 phyvo wrote:
I thought tango eve looks great, what's there to not like? It even gets rid of the base's dopey hairstyle that looks like a mix between vegeta and whipped cream.
I agree with the new Tango Eve being better. Safecracker is a push since all they did was add the tentacles. Shadow walker looks better to me. Masquerade seems like the old hair was a bit more fun but I like the new outfit.
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On September 27 2017 04:56 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 04:40 Sent. wrote:
That awkard time between patch notes release and NeoIllusions making a new thread on LL: you want to post something, but you know nobody is going to read it because the old thread will be closed soon. He used to be faster. Cue passion memes. Stacked Guinsoo's is dumb, and Riot decided to make it so tanks have huge bursts of shields/bonus health rather than being generically resilient, so you can't chunk them out meaningfully then retreat, and the start of fights is often a slugfest is a squishy doesn't get caught, which I assume gives more time to stack Guinsoo's effect and then annihilate people as soon as the temporary buff expires. That Xin update is weird, they're shitting pretty hard on both his damage and stickiness (q basically needs 260 bonus AD to deal as much damage as before, late game, and he loses ArPen), is the ult worth it?
They gave him an actual ability on W to make up for it, the attack speed and spearheal was moved to passive and E, he should do way more damage now. Butchering the slow duration seems a bit too much, but I think it's where they would look first to increase should he turn out too weak as a jungler.
Janna changes honestly look more like a buff...
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does the spell shield thing apply to malz too?
the way you have to actually wait for his shield to disappear is fucking stupid
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Id give the Eve remake a 3-4/10. They smartly made stealth only post-6, which means its value in soloQ vs. pro is nearly the same, on the other hand they made her regular abilities mediocre, and ult terrible (unless they do OP amounts of damage), so I don't see how the kit will work cohesively. I think that they actually made her into a tank accidentally with the % health damage and execute. Unless she is overtuned, I don't see her working as an assassin with this kit.
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pretty disappointed in the eve rework she will only be strong if overturned.
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