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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On September 28 2017 14:25 Slusher wrote: They put out a blog post using the reasoning I questioned I'd be more inclined to just call it PR bullshit. When you accidently buff one of the strongest and most disliked to play against champions you darn well have some kind of excuse better than "big sorry". | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
He's just another generic AD caster now that can blow one person up, and then dies instead of the late game drain tank he's supposed to be. Before you could go tank, bruiser or ad, now you can only go ad and maybe bruiser if your team has a lot of damage, but its suboptimal. its hilarious that you can't AA while W is being cast it feels like you're playing a shitty version of kayn or something, WHY GIVE AN AA BASED CHAMP A LONG ANIMATION ABILITY THAT STOPS AAs LOL | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4115 Posts
On September 28 2017 22:19 VayneAuthority wrote: classic riot taking a really smooth and cohesive kit in xin and completely shitting on it, feels so clunky to play now and the animations are fucking hilariously bad. Another level 7 champ that ill never touch again, too bad. He's just another generic AD caster now that can blow one person up, and then dies instead of the late game drain tank he's supposed to be. Before you could go tank, bruiser or ad, now you can only go ad and maybe bruiser if your team has a lot of damage, but its suboptimal. its hilarious that you can't AA while W is being cast it feels like you're playing a shitty version of kayn or something, WHY GIVE AN AA BASED CHAMP A LONG ANIMATION ABILITY THAT STOPS AAs LOL I watched few Dominate's games on xin today, he looked kind of all right. Also both AS and AD builds worked for him, however, I agree that he feels suboptimal with tank items | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On September 28 2017 23:10 M2 wrote: I watched few Dominate's games on xin today, he looked kind of all right. Also both AS and AD builds worked for him, however, I agree that he feels suboptimal with tank items I can't speak to his power level but just playing him in general feels really shitty, you only have 1 option basically, lead with W, all in, then W again if they are getting away. They didnt make xin less binary, just made his kit clunkier and lacking in build options. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On September 28 2017 14:22 phyvo wrote: Yeah, I wasn't correct, sorry. W second might be even be right for PBE Eve, but it's so hard to know with how awkward the current kit feels. Leveling W actually gets you several things: range, 10% mr shred, 16s cd goes to 10s cd, +200 monster damage, +1s charm duration. But the WQ pairing itself is so awkward to use and none of that changes when skilling it up. Now, on your point about the range, range is useful if you've got good movespeed bonuses and are in the process of rotating/flanking someone. It lets you charge W early rather than walking up to them and then starting the W. But that's literally the only use I've found for extra range because camo lets you sneak up to level 1 W range anyways. (another thing I got wrong: there is an indicator for your ultimate that tells you when they're below 30%... but, especially early game, that doesn't mean that they will die. So it's kind of not actually useful.) I don't bother with Redmercy, but Moon was playing PBE Eve today and he had some good thoughts. He said he would play it again tomorrow but seemed a little cheesed when he signed off. Anyways, the kit is slightly frustrating to play in so many small ways you kind of have to experience it yourself. I totally understand. Some things you have to experience for yourself. I only mentioned Redmercy since he's a diamond level player that seems to make reasonable vids (ie: no 6 static siv builds). I saw WingsOfDeath use it as well. Both are not junglers of course but I saw them both skill the W second and seemed to do well with it. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 28 2017 23:52 Jek wrote: How is the kit clunkier when they just moved his old W active to E and passive to his well passive. If it's that bad just dont use W and you have old Xin without armor shred but with a better ultimate in return. Due to his CDR reduction, having two abilities tied into one actually hurts flexibility. you cant gain attack speed without also wasting your gap closer. Add to that the passive damage downgrade to his Q, and the slow neutering on his E, and there isn't really any way to play xin without playing around his W anymore. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
lol | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8637 Posts
On September 29 2017 03:50 Jek wrote: New way to play Xin is to just build AD and kill towers with a single Q. https://clips.twitch.tv/GlutenFreeSteamyRamenTheThing lol WTF WAS THAT | ||
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
His Q is bonus physical damage: 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 / 35 (+ 40% bonus AD). It probably wasn't flagged to not apply the damage to structures. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On September 29 2017 21:31 Jek wrote: Another Janna hotfix today. Oh Riot... :D ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6847568191041323e2626e05b3406f37.png) | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On September 29 2017 23:17 Numy wrote: Feel like someone on the balance team should be getting some harsh words. Shipping a "nerf" that's just a massive buff then having to hotfix twice to actually nerf the champ screams incompetence or negligence. Also in terms of hilarious balance changes lately, Orianna. Get nerfed into the ground where it feels like you're lagging to play the champion. Revert most of that nerf, then randomly buff the champion. Looking forward to it getting gutted soon. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 29 2017 23:31 GrandInquisitor wrote: Like LL or Reddit is any better ... I never quite got this response. You can't excuse people being paid to do a job doing it poorly by the fact that randoms that aren't paid to do it are not good at giving suggestions or changes. If that was the case then you could never ever criticize anyone at their job since there will always be someone worse at it that isn't being employed to do it. | ||
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