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2017 Esports General Discussion - Page 25
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Korean esports everyone. No wonder their top players are so eager to peace out every year... | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On August 04 2017 21:42 Numy wrote: https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/2609/skt-t1-penalized-for-bangs-controversial-comment-made-on-stream Korean esports everyone. No wonder their top players are so eager to peace out every year... It's part of that Korean culture that people on the internet love to slobber on. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 05 2017 19:12 Numy wrote: I believe the incident happened at the start of the year and the only reason why this is happening is because fans on invern were coming up with reasons why Bang is an asshole causing SKT to suck. Bending to that kind of insane stupidity doesn't sit well with me. Literally everyone does it nowadays sadly. The worst part is the people who are complaining are very rarely the actual consumers. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On August 05 2017 14:23 cLutZ wrote: LCK is, at least, not suspending him from competition. Riot does that for online rudeness, despite knowing that the reporting mechanisms they implemented are super abusable. They do personally review these cases though. Hence, that the reporting mechanism are abusable does not lead to unjustified punishment. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 05 2017 22:05 Prog wrote: They do personally review these cases though. Hence, that the reporting mechanism are abusable does not lead to unjustified punishment. Except the problem isn't the process, its that selective reporting (or often Reddit threads) get people selectively placed into the process, and once you are under scrutiny, you are getting bonked because everyone commits violations. The player conduct code is like the 55MPH speed limits on interstates. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On August 06 2017 05:05 JimmiC wrote: Omargod seams pretty underwhelming. If chaser is still in NA would he make sense as a PO pick up? I get he didn't look amazing but I think he would be a upgrade. If they had the money they could pull off a trade with TL for RO since for some reason TL seems to be phasing him out. Chaser went back to Korea, last I heard. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On August 06 2017 04:58 cLutZ wrote: Except the problem isn't the process, its that selective reporting (or often Reddit threads) get people selectively placed into the process, and once you are under scrutiny, you are getting bonked because everyone commits violations. The player conduct code is like the 55MPH speed limits on interstates. I disagree here. I don't see why a normal, adult human being should not be able to not flame, not int, etc. If someone wants to be a professional league player satisfying the player conduct code should not be an issue. (Actually, I have no idea why any player would not want to satisfy riot's conduct norms. I think they are reasonable.) | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Kinda boring topic though, has not been relevant for so long. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 06 2017 04:58 cLutZ wrote: Except the problem isn't the process, its that selective reporting (or often Reddit threads) get people selectively placed into the process, and once you are under scrutiny, you are getting bonked because everyone commits violations. The player conduct code is like the 55MPH speed limits on interstates. I'm always genuinely surprised to hear people unironically claim that everyone commits ban-worthy violations. Is it really so unthinkable that some people don't call their teammates fags or degenerates to be gunned down in the streets? On August 07 2017 02:29 cLutZ wrote: I was more thinking about the few times a guy was on stream and basically yelled to himself/his fans about how shit someone was. Then that went viral, then punishment. I challenge you to name me a single person that's ever been banned because of a stream-only violation and hasn't done anything in-game. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Obviously the severity incarnation ban was a result of onstream statements that, as far as I know, he maintains were always puffery. Going further back, this clearly happened to Nukeduck and Mithy as articles like this: http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64271 hounded them for what, apparantly in EU, is considered fairly normal language. This riot post, while screwed up, http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4398236 confirms it was outside activity that put them onto the scent of ND and Mithy. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/273pob/league_of_legends_competition_ruling_suspension/chx3r4r/ There was no other indication from riot that behavior ingame, rather than being reported out of client was the problem. All that said, Riot has vastly improved its systems in this regard. They simply don't allow the average person (which I would argue most pros who ever got banned for toxicity were) to rage enough to get banned because you just get muted. Plus Lyte is gone and LOL teams are now all big money which would fight any meaningful suspension (aka they will all probably end up being 1-2 game suspensions, during regular season) in the future, | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On August 07 2017 15:57 cLutZ wrote: Plus Lyte is gone and LOL teams are now all big money which would fight any meaningful suspension (aka they will all probably end up being 1-2 game suspensions, during regular season) in the future, Lyte's hypocrisy still amazes me. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 07 2017 15:57 cLutZ wrote: I'm fairly sure the Stixxay ban was preceded by a Reddit thread that "called him out". Obviously the severity incarnation ban was a result of onstream statements that, as far as I know, he maintains were always puffery. Going further back, this clearly happened to Nukeduck and Mithy as articles like this: http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64271 hounded them for what, apparantly in EU, is considered fairly normal language. This riot post, while screwed up, http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4398236 confirms it was outside activity that put them onto the scent of ND and Mithy. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/273pob/league_of_legends_competition_ruling_suspension/chx3r4r/ There was no other indication from riot that behavior ingame, rather than being reported out of client was the problem. So that we're very clear, what you think is "fairly normal language" is a guy typing, in-game: "so many fucking niggers in one lobby" "get cancer and die fucking trash jews i will gass your families" Yeah it must have been his on-stream behavior that got him banned. Because obviously him typing that stuff in-game had no connection to his ban. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 08 2017 12:37 GrandInquisitor wrote: So that we're very clear, what you think is "fairly normal language" is a guy typing, in-game: "so many fucking niggers in one lobby" "get cancer and die fucking trash jews i will gass your families" Yeah it must have been his on-stream behavior that got him banned. Because obviously him typing that stuff in-game had no connection to his ban. Except it was in a custom lobby. What's next? You get banned if you PM a friend of yours "go kill yourself you fucking nigger"? | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
I mean I know EUW players are bad but dang, if that's your go to example of "behavior that shouldn't be punished" ... | ||
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