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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 00:17:42
January 17 2017 07:11 GMT
#1
The off-season is finally over!



Off-Season
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9298 Posts
January 17 2017 22:09 GMT
#2
https://www.facebook.com/LoLPulse/posts/1246387022122796:0

Can't wait to see community reactions after Pulse-Froskurinn duo cast
You're now breathing manually
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 18 2017 00:37 GMT
#3
NA spring predictions:

1) dignitas
2) tsm
3) tl
4) c9
5) clg
6) immortals
7) phoenix1
8) envy
9) echo fox
10) flyquest
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
January 18 2017 02:43 GMT
#4
Really sad that Doublelift won't be playing this split
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Phailol
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States84 Posts
January 18 2017 08:33 GMT
#5
Not sure if this would warrant its own thread so I'll post here.

Watch announced his retirement today :C
Also, I never knew that he was a Brood War pro.
Was on OGN/hite Sparkyz, with his only televised win being vs Bisu strangely enough
With every great victory, many failures preceded it.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 27 2017 06:11 GMT
#6
10 bans in competitive has worked out really well. We've seen champion diversity go up by a lot (amusingly red side only has 4 bans because Camille is so broken though).
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 27 2017 09:20 GMT
#7
On January 27 2017 15:11 Zess wrote:
10 bans in competitive has worked out really well. We've seen champion diversity go up by a lot (amusingly red side only has 4 bans because Camille is so broken though).

It is more like Red has to ban Camille, Rengar, Leblanc every game so they have 2 left. Thankfully the new p/b exists otherwise current meta would suck.
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 27 2017 10:53 GMT
#8
I think when 90% of red side bans are straight up Camille/LeBlanc/Rengar, it's definitely an indication that those champions are not in tune with the rest of the pool. I trust they'll be toned down by Feb and by then drafting will be more dynamic than it is now.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 27 2017 11:34 GMT
#9
I wonder if going forward we may see slightly different balancing from Riot with the new system? Part of the issues I feel with drafting is that Riot has been "whack a mole" style for so long that it stifles possibilities. That and teams are so used to older drafting system that we may not see anything truly interesting for awhile. The Camille/Rengar/Leblanc show may be a mix of the two more than them just being overtuned.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 27 2017 11:34 GMT
#10
More champs are op right now than those though. Could also argue Maokai, Ryze, Khazix, Syndra, Malzahar for example. Riot balancing team still has a lot of work to do.
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 27 2017 13:03 GMT
#11
On January 27 2017 20:34 Redox wrote:
More champs are op right now than those though. Could also argue Maokai, Ryze, Khazix, Syndra, Malzahar for example. Riot balancing team still has a lot of work to do.

Of those you listed, I'd only consider Ryze remotely OP
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 28 2017 22:32 GMT
#12
As long as the "op" champions are high enough in number and relatively equal in strength, then the pick/ban phase can be healthy. Maokai, Poppy, Kha, Lee are all relatively equal in power in terms of how much they impact a draft so it doesn't matter that much that they might be perceived as too strong. And I think there aren't enough S tier champions that the pick/ban is full of them -- we're seeing pretty good numbers of "just barely good enough to be picked every game" champs surface thanks to having both more bans and having interwoven bans.
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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
January 30 2017 00:12 GMT
#13
I think the 2017 season is going to be exciting. Everyone knows Ashe and Varus are the two most exciting ADCs to watch as a spectator.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 01 2017 20:54 GMT
#14
https://esports.yahoo.com/froggen-lcs-week-2-180000877.html

Interesting interview with Froggen. Sounds like old boys club is stronger than ever.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 01 2017 21:45 GMT
#15
Well I was already rooting for EF.

Also makes me think that the conflict between Riot and NA teams regarding franchising is still going on. We have surely not heard the last of that.
Off-season = best season
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9298 Posts
February 01 2017 22:06 GMT
#16
Is scrimming with Brazilian teams a viable (temporary) solution?
You're now breathing manually
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 01 2017 22:27 GMT
#17
i was under the impression teams who had signed this letter had openly said they wouldn't scrim teams who didn't. I guess that was an unconfirmed rumor? Idk what to say I had been under the assumption this was known after the Adrain incident.
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 01 2017 22:31 GMT
#18
On February 02 2017 07:06 Sent. wrote:
Is scrimming with Brazilian teams a viable (temporary) solution?

I doubt it is possible because of ping, also skill difference too high. EF have a second team in challenger though and they could also scrim other challenger teams.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 01 2017 22:33 GMT
#19
On February 02 2017 07:27 Slusher wrote:
i was under the impression teams who had signed this letter had openly said they wouldn't scrim teams who didn't. I guess that was an unconfirmed rumor? Idk what to say I had been under the assumption this was known after the Adrain incident.

Idk I never heard that. Imo it would not be the smartest thing to say because it cheapens the letter as you dont know who signed because they believe in the content or because they did not want to lose scrims.
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 02 2017 23:43 GMT
#20
Boo hoo.
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