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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On November 20 2017 03:20 Gahlo wrote: Per sources, TSM Sven and Mithy. Would also mean Svenskeren is gone too. God damnit, that's the end of G2, such a tragedy. EU scene is seriously lacking in funds compared to NA, it's a travesty and just depressing seeing teams get torn apart after they perform. EU is like NA's Challenger scene, except NA never performs when it matters. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
On November 20 2017 05:01 DarkCore wrote: God damnit, that's the end of G2, such a tragedy. EU scene is seriously lacking in funds compared to NA, it's a travesty and just depressing seeing teams get torn apart after they perform. EU is like NA's Challenger scene, except NA never performs when it matters. Beating EU at joke events matters. To casual fans, at least. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
KRTop/Sven/Bjerg/Double/Biofrost | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Also, I don't think TSM can have a KR Top and Sven on the roster. afaik, it's two imports per roster, not two imports per lineup you field in a match. Hoarding talent only works if they're NA players. (see: TL) | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 20 2017 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote: Wonder if this means Double is retiring, taking a break or what. Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)? Bjerg and Mike have been duoing a lot for the last couple weeks. Though people say Bjerg will go around and duo with other junglers pretty often for short periods of time. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 20 2017 05:58 Gahlo wrote: Bjerg and Mike have been duoing a lot for the last couple weeks. Though people say Bjerg will go around and duo with other junglers pretty often for short periods of time. Counterpoint to that is that they're "prepping" for All-Star. But yeah, I get what you're saying. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On November 20 2017 05:34 NeoIllusions wrote: It's questionable that Double/Bio (Double esp) would want to play rotating Bot with Zven/Mithy. They can end up as starter on just about any other NA LCS team. Also, I don't think TSM can have a KR Top and Sven on the roster. afaik, it's two imports per roster, not two imports per lineup you field in a match. Hoarding talent only works if they're NA players. (see: TL) No you can have as many imports as you want. But the lineup has to be 3 residents 2 imports on game day. TL had Mickey/Reignover/Piglet at end of the year for e.g. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Why is that relevant? You either need native talent that can beat Koreans and Chinese, or imported talent that can do that. Having imports (even if they don't technically count as a slot) that can't beat them is as useless as having a random new challenger, without the potential upside. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 20 2017 07:58 cLutZ wrote: Why is that relevant? You either need native talent that can beat Koreans and Chinese, or imported talent that can do that. Having imports (even if they don't technically count as a slot) that can't beat them is as useless as having a random new challenger, without the potential upside. I'd say having bad imports is worse than having bad domestic talent. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 20 2017 08:09 Gahlo wrote: I'd say having bad imports is worse than having bad domestic talent. Disagree. Bad domestic players can be popular for personality. Also re:Jimmy it's not a worlds or bust model, it's just recognizing that having a veteran that isn't even a hard carry in na is dumb. Doubly so now that you can't be relegated. I mean, ffs Piglet isn't even some "rock" where you can give him no attention and he won't tilt. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 20 2017 08:15 cLutZ wrote: Disagree. Bad domestic players can be popular for personality. Also re:Jimmy it's not a worlds or bust model, it's just recognizing that having a veteran that isn't even a hard carry in na is dumb. Doubly so now that you can't be relegated. I mean, ffs Piglet isn't even some "rock" where you can give him no attention and he won't tilt. Bad imports can be popular for personality too. Import slots are a limited resources. Using them for little/no gain over other options is an ineffective use of that resource. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 20 2017 08:19 JimmiC wrote: But if hes better then your other option and not a import slot he makes you better, if you think codysun is a better player you keep him. But i think piglet is better, especially in certain metas Eh, its not worth it to keep low impact vets, even if they are slightly better. Smarter to just take flyers in rookies or players you think have potential but have had a bad team environment | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On November 20 2017 05:16 NeoIllusions wrote: Wonder if this means Double is retiring, taking a break or what. Not quite PraY/Gorilla but at least this is a Bot lane with years of experience together, coming into TSM, and a decent use of import slots. I echo the ??? about not picking up Xmithie. I'm hard pressed to believe that Regi couldn't field Xmithie a better offer when Steve had to pay out bank (presumptuously) for 5+ players and w/e the TL roster is currently. So I guess Regi has a different NA Jungle in mind already (MikeYeung?)? Xmithie did seem like he would be a good fit for TSM. Though don't count out a trade/swap of some sorts with Reignover (and maybe +1 like Dardoch or Inori for academy/sub?) for DL/Bio. Or maybe TSM would ask for Xmithie in exchange for DL/Bio. I wouldn't put it past them since Steve/Regi are buddy buddy and these would be mutually beneficial trades. MikeYeung is a fine young player but I just don't see how he would be a good fit on TSM. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Apparently Samsung managed to keep their team this time :D | ||
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