2017 Esports General Discussion - Page 45
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
Don't get me wrong, I loath the TSM brand and team. But their team name is the only thing I think they have going for them. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 16 2017 05:10 Slusher wrote: If you think TSM is a good name and these suck you are heavily undervaluing the effect of familiarity on you. I like the tsm brand I like how their simple white on black logo reminds me of the Yankees. But in a vacuum that name is equally terrible to the worst team name you can think of. That's why they prefer to be called TSM now over Team Solo Mid, game way G2 wants to be called G2 instead of Gamers2. But again, we're talking about Regi coming up with it over multi million(don't know if they hit billion) sports teams that pay people to come up with shit like this. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
I'd say it's the best so far from the NBA orgs, but still has plenty of room for memeage in the League vernacular. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
However, maybe their marketing team looked at teams like Team SoloMid and said look how stupid this team name is and how popular they are. If our name is EVEN MORE stupid we'll be even more popular? Right?! | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On November 16 2017 18:10 cLutZ wrote: Why not just "Warriors"? Is that not a perfectly good name? What about "Guardians"? Why must they persist in being memes. Golden Warriors would have been super simple and a good name. Guardians makes me think of those dumb skins in the LoL shop. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On November 16 2017 21:29 Gahlo wrote: Golden Warriors might have been too close to their NBA branding, which they aren't allowed to use for stuff outside of the NBA. I read on reddit that the only thing that is trademarked is the full name, not the individual parts. Golden State for example is not owned by anyone. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On November 16 2017 03:19 NeoIllusions wrote:My main point is that Team Solo Mid is rather contradictory, if anything, if you look at the two parts. It's basically saying a team of one player (Mid)? Take that name and use it in any other new, competitive situation and you have to wonder how the other four players on the team feels that their Mid thinks he's going to 1v9 in a team game. Lastly, you got the timing a little reversed. Regi made TSM team brand long before he expanded over to League strategy on his website. The game has largely consisted of Faker clapping the competition pretty much nonstop to world championships, and he almost carried this hulking corpse of SKT to a world championship. I'm finding it somewhat hilarious you're insisting the whole 1v9 thing doesn't make any sense at all. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 17 2017 00:40 zer0das wrote: The game has largely consisted of Faker clapping the competition pretty much nonstop to world championships, and he almost carried this hulking corpse of SKT to a world championship. I'm finding it somewhat hilarious you're insisting the whole 1v9 thing doesn't make any sense at all. How did you manage to read my post and come to this conclusion? zzz My post clearly states that 1v9 is a bad situation for a team to be in, much less naming your team after a scenario where 4 of the players on your team are dead weight and only 1 player doing everything so they can win. Why would you name your team after a situation where not all team members are on equal standing, or at the very least attempting to. Doesn't seem like it would foster a good team environment. I'm not even sure why you're bringing SKT into this. Majority of their World Championship victories were when the team was very dominate as a whole. The times where Faker is forced to 1v9, fans and detractors are all shitting on the team for how bad they're doing and obv this year, they didn't win. Much like the Bjergsen and 4 wards meme, it's definitely not a positive reference about the team. Much of this is fairly moot because TSM is largely a brand now and that's what fans see, not the actual name, Team Solo Mid. But since the original discussion is team names, I'm trying to judge on merely that, not the fandom behind it. Why would a Top player sign on a team when everything about the team, including the name, is expecting him to be shit? I'm not insisting the 1v9 doesn't make sense, I'm insisting why would anyone want to be a part of that 9. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
and why would a player not sign to a team just because of their name? thats literally irrelevant both to how much money he'll make and to how the team actually functions. "I signed with dignitas instead of cloud 9 because their name makes me think they want me to make sweet tender love with them." -nobody, ever | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
My commentary about the 1v9 was mainly about team imagery regarding the name. Ofc no one is going to avoid signing on a team based on team name alone. Just like how there's going to be a lot of NA talent wishing to sign on 100 Thieves/Clutch City because it's rolling in NBA money, not giving a fk about how retarded those team sounds. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 17 2017 03:45 NeoIllusions wrote: My original argument is that if one of the current entering teams had name their brand Team Solo Mid, instead of 100 Thieves or Clutch City, a lot of people would go wtf as well. So all the hubbub about the new names seems silly to me because a lot of the legacy team names are just as bad, so it's not like I'm going to hold the NBA teams to a higher standard in terms of names. My commentary about the 1v9 was mainly about team imagery regarding the name. Ofc no one is going to avoid signing on a team based on team name alone. Just like how there's going to be a lot of NA talent wishing to sign on 100 Thieves/Clutch City because it's rolling in NBA money, not giving a fk about how retarded those team sounds. 100 Thieves is almost as good as NiPples imo Clutch City would be a fine name if it wasn't an NA team xD | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 17 2017 03:45 NeoIllusions wrote: My original argument is that if one of the current entering teams had name their brand Team Solo Mid, instead of 100 Thieves or Clutch City, a lot of people would go wtf as well. So all the hubbub about the new names seems silly to me because a lot of the legacy team names are just as bad, so it's not like I'm going to hold the NBA teams to a higher standard in terms of names. My commentary about the 1v9 was mainly about team imagery regarding the name. Ofc no one is going to avoid signing on a team based on team name alone. Just like how there's going to be a lot of NA talent wishing to sign on 100 Thieves/Clutch City because it's rolling in NBA money, not giving a fk about how retarded those team sounds. Yea, but that's not a good argument at all. These teams are probably going to be bad (or if they are good it will be due to imports, which is a generally unpopular approach), so they won't be popular. TSM is only acceptable because it is already popular. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7dqsk7/when_this_post_is_12_hours_old_the_first_week_of/ A lot of "NA Talent" on offer. Wonder how Tarzan will explode this time?! | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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