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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 22 2017 14:50 GMT
#81
Also, Steve wasn't part of the day to day for the League team this split. He'd handed it over to his staff. Now he's coming back and making changes.
Que Sera Sera
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 14:53:50
February 22 2017 14:52 GMT
#82
The important part isn't merely replacing people but figuring out why things went wrong in the first place. Too often you see people just firing individuals in management without actually solving the problem which just leads to a collapse. TL has been failing for over a year now(Could make a case for the entirety in LoL), which means they have to figure why this is the case and then take steps to solve it. These steps could involve removal and often do.

I'm not saying them going into desperation mode is good or bad, merely that it's bad that they have gotten to this point. A lot of failure has to take place for an established team to reach this. We saw that happen in CLG where Hotshot, an emotional person without good leadership skills or business sense was handling their reigns. He rightfully(willingly or not) delegated his operation to people that could handle this aspect.

On February 22 2017 23:50 AdsMoFro wrote:
Also, Steve wasn't part of the day to day for the League team this split. He'd handed it over to his staff. Now he's coming back and making changes.


This is even more worrying now if true. When a manager leaves his operation it shouldn't fall to pieces, if it does that just speaks volumes to the ability of the manager himself. The systems should be in place that in the short term nothing changes if that person vanishes.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 22 2017 15:02 GMT
#83
I think it's about judging talent.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5uyrjf/fun_fact_about_team_liquid_every_team_has_at/
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
February 22 2017 15:05 GMT
#84
On February 22 2017 23:52 Numy wrote:
The important part isn't merely replacing people but figuring out why things went wrong in the first place. Too often you see people just firing individuals in management without actually solving the problem which just leads to a collapse. TL has been failing for over a year now(Could make a case for the entirety in LoL), which means they have to figure why this is the case and then take steps to solve it. These steps could involve removal and often do.

I'm not saying them going into desperation mode is good or bad, merely that it's bad that they have gotten to this point. A lot of failure has to take place for an established team to reach this. We saw that happen in CLG where Hotshot, an emotional person without good leadership skills or business sense was handling their reigns. He rightfully(willingly or not) delegated his operation to people that could handle this aspect.

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On February 22 2017 23:50 AdsMoFro wrote:
Also, Steve wasn't part of the day to day for the League team this split. He'd handed it over to his staff. Now he's coming back and making changes.


This is even more worrying now if true. When a manager leaves his operation it shouldn't fall to pieces, if it does that just speaks volumes to the ability of the manager himself. The systems should be in place that in the short term nothing changes if that person vanishes.

Well it didn't fall to pieces, it was already in pieces and it just continued like that.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
February 22 2017 20:19 GMT
#85
maybe depended too much on his personal charisma and force of personality to keep troubles from bubbling up into big problems. then when he left the troubles get revealed.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 26 2017 02:54 GMT
#86
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5w7ias/nyjacky_to_return_to_liquid_as_starting_midlaner/

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Moderator。◕‿◕。
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 26 2017 03:07 GMT
#87
Haha, get out of LCS now pls.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
February 26 2017 04:13 GMT
#88
lul at least now his realtor experience can help find goldenglue a new home no? or worst come to worst, a bench.
North Korea is best Korea!
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 26 2017 09:30 GMT
#89
Now I don't really follow the American scene, but I've never heard of him :O
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 10:45:44
February 26 2017 10:45 GMT
#90
He played for curse many years ago. GG said he's just trolling though. One of the original pros in the NA scene.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
February 26 2017 14:18 GMT
#91
It's the fact that you can't completely rule out the possibility that makes Jacky's tweet hilarious. Well played, Jacky.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 26 2017 18:00 GMT
#92
In other news Whiteknight just played for PSG in EU CS vs Kinguin, replacing Steve. Have not heard of this guy since season 3 I think. That is kinda like the NYJacky thing only that it is true.
Off-season = best season
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 22:32:08
February 28 2017 22:30 GMT
#93
http://wwg.com/esports/2017/02/28/report-piglet-to-move-to-mid-lane-for-team-liquid-youngbin-to-ad/

Like the link says: piglet to move to mid lane and youngbin to become starting adc. Note the changes are still pending at Riot.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 28 2017 22:56 GMT
#94
On February 27 2017 03:00 Redox wrote:
In other news Whiteknight just played for PSG in EU CS vs Kinguin, replacing Steve. Have not heard of this guy since season 3 I think. That is kinda like the NYJacky thing only that it is true.

Didn't see the game is Whiteknight still a beast?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 01 2017 05:35 GMT
#95
On March 01 2017 07:30 Yorbon wrote:
http://wwg.com/esports/2017/02/28/report-piglet-to-move-to-mid-lane-for-team-liquid-youngbin-to-ad/

Like the link says: piglet to move to mid lane and youngbin to become starting adc. Note the changes are still pending at Riot.


This can't be real. I mean I know it is but it just can't. I agree with whoever said it in the article, they needed a change but this just sounds insane
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 05:51:07
March 01 2017 05:49 GMT
#96
On March 01 2017 07:56 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2017 03:00 Redox wrote:
In other news Whiteknight just played for PSG in EU CS vs Kinguin, replacing Steve. Have not heard of this guy since season 3 I think. That is kinda like the NYJacky thing only that it is true.

Didn't see the game is Whiteknight still a beast?

Did not see much either but they won and apparently he was solid. And there was this impressive Gragas play:
(worth a look)
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 06:00:22
March 01 2017 05:59 GMT
#97
On March 01 2017 14:35 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 07:30 Yorbon wrote:
http://wwg.com/esports/2017/02/28/report-piglet-to-move-to-mid-lane-for-team-liquid-youngbin-to-ad/

Like the link says: piglet to move to mid lane and youngbin to become starting adc. Note the changes are still pending at Riot.


This can't be real. I mean I know it is but it just can't. I agree with whoever said it in the article, they needed a change but this just sounds insane

The desperation is real. Shows you what they think of Goldenglue's performance. That might be a career ender right there. Tbh I did not think it was THAT bad. And their bot lane had problems as well. I always thought TL put way too much trust into Piglet but oh well.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 01 2017 06:09 GMT
#98
And OG is having an even bigger meltdown:
http://as.com/esports/2017/02/27/league_of_legends/1488215984_412848.html#english-version

Peke trying to play mid again, probably not well practiced at all. Nae-Hyun going to support without any experience while Hiva is benched. Wisdom benched as well and they signed "Cinkrof" from Baskonia as new jungler. And now according to the article this guy does not even want to play for OG anymore because they play so bad, so now it is open who they have. Yeah, it is almost comical how bad this is.
Off-season = best season
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 01 2017 07:22 GMT
#99


Coach Ssong stops coaching at longzhu (original member of Najin Sword in 2012)
From google translate I could decipher that the contract was terminated with mutual agreement, so that could mean anything.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
March 01 2017 11:48 GMT
#100
On March 01 2017 14:59 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 14:35 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On March 01 2017 07:30 Yorbon wrote:
http://wwg.com/esports/2017/02/28/report-piglet-to-move-to-mid-lane-for-team-liquid-youngbin-to-ad/

Like the link says: piglet to move to mid lane and youngbin to become starting adc. Note the changes are still pending at Riot.


This can't be real. I mean I know it is but it just can't. I agree with whoever said it in the article, they needed a change but this just sounds insane

The desperation is real. Shows you what they think of Goldenglue's performance. That might be a career ender right there. Tbh I did not think it was THAT bad. And their bot lane had problems as well. I always thought TL put way too much trust into Piglet but oh well.

I don't think it's especially desperate. Piglet has always been a carry-style player, and the easiest position to carry from nowadays is mid. He's also a playmaker ADC in a meta in which botlane ADCs just poke and you actually get more playmaking from midlane hybrid ADCs like Corki. If there was ever a meta for Piglet to play in the midlane, this is it.

As to Goldenglue, his results speak for themselves, and I see him as easily the weakest midlaner for these past 5 weeks in the NA LCS. He's been mediocre at best and terrible at worst, so you don't need a Bjergsen or a Jensen to improve upon that.
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