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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 11 2016 16:58 GMT
#61
Anyone else perma banning talon?
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
November 11 2016 16:59 GMT
#62
On November 12 2016 01:57 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2016 23:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 11 2016 22:36 kongoline wrote:
i agree with scarra this should be called supports not assassins patch, so many strong support items got added and buffed assassins pale in comparison

any time assassins are played supports become incredibly important.

They are only being played because ppl are testing 1 or 2 at best will be meta when thing settle


My guess would be Kat and Talon. Everyone else got new things but it doesn't seem enough. A lot of them had their dmg nerfed for not much in return.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 18:25:46
November 11 2016 18:23 GMT
#63
On November 12 2016 01:59 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2016 01:57 Slusher wrote:
On November 11 2016 23:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 11 2016 22:36 kongoline wrote:
i agree with scarra this should be called supports not assassins patch, so many strong support items got added and buffed assassins pale in comparison

any time assassins are played supports become incredibly important.

They are only being played because ppl are testing 1 or 2 at best will be meta when thing settle


My guess would be Kat and Talon. Everyone else got new things but it doesn't seem enough. A lot of them had their dmg nerfed for not much in return.

I dont know. Fizz seems like an absolute beast. Rengar is the most obnoxious thing ever with his pseudo-Olaf ult. Karma with Locket first is so freelo right now it's hilarious thanks to the assassin spam in all games.

Alistar is broken and the new support items even more so. What a wonderful time to live in as a support main, almost as good as when assist sprees existed. :D
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 19:17:28
November 11 2016 18:38 GMT
#64
I'm loving this new talon kick. All of them keep feeding my midtheon.

I don't think it'd be a winning matchup for Spartan if people knew the champion, but it's freelo right now. People aren't shove roaming till I'm big enough to one shot them and have ult. Lol.

That, and I like laning vs fizz, kat, akali, etc.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 19:05:07
November 11 2016 18:59 GMT
#65
Fizzs strength I think is overblown at the moment because you get a lot more even / good match ups ATM. He's buffed but how much I'm not sure yet, my gut still says bruiser will end up being stronger.

Like icanada is saying ppl spamming poor landing champs in mid is really skewing results.
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 19:14:46
November 11 2016 19:13 GMT
#66
Talon's dumb because he's basically guaranteed to escape from any jungle gank barring your mid laner having hard CC of their own, or you are playing a jungler like Hecarim or Nidalee who can just blow him up and/or follow him after he parkour's into his jungle. The parkour CD needs to get nerfed a lot.

Fizz seems fine, the fish ulti getting bigger the further out it travels is interesting. Kat seems a bit weaker for a huge increase in difficulty, and Akali seems literal trash tier.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 11 2016 19:30 GMT
#67
The akali remake is so confusing, they changed the parts of her kit that weren't vanilla as fuck.
Carrilord has arrived.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
November 11 2016 19:38 GMT
#68
What's new Kat like? I've only seen people who looked like they were me trying Lee Sin, but that's not really representative for the champ's strenghts. Anybody seen any good ones?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
November 11 2016 20:30 GMT
#69
Still feels like a feast or famine champion, they just moved her mobility from ward jumping to knife jumping
You're now breathing manually
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
November 11 2016 20:42 GMT
#70
On November 12 2016 04:38 Fildun wrote:
What's new Kat like? I've only seen people who looked like they were me trying Lee Sin, but that's not really representative for the champ's strenghts. Anybody seen any good ones?


I've faced Kat twice and she felt weak in both games (damage felt weaker than before) but my placement games have been such a shit show so far that it's hard to get a judgement.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 21:33:36
November 11 2016 21:24 GMT
#71
On November 12 2016 04:38 Fildun wrote:
What's new Kat like? I've only seen people who looked like they were me trying Lee Sin, but that's not really representative for the champ's strenghts. Anybody seen any good ones?

i'm 5:1 in diamond flex queue with her right now only loss was cause it was top and my first game with her. got a quadra and penta on the first day.
she's really strong. laning phase is 100x stronger and you have options in team fights now. everything in her kit feels really smooth and works together so well. it's great to play and a huge improvement from 2.0. everyone sucking with her is either stuck in the old mindset just hasn't figured out what to do with her yet

On November 12 2016 05:30 Sent. wrote:
Still feels like a feast or famine champion, they just moved her mobility from ward jumping to knife jumping

not just her mobility. they put a ton of damage into it as well. like 1.0 ap ratio in AoE. you can easily get 5+ of these off in a fight
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 11 2016 21:34 GMT
#72
Uh, isn't parkour's cd like 3+ minutes at level 1? And you won't level that up over your damage abilities. Sure it's shorter than Flash but it makes Talon a lot more gankable than something like Fizz or LB.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 11 2016 21:41 GMT
#73
On November 12 2016 06:34 Alaric wrote:
Uh, isn't parkour's cd like 3+ minutes at level 1? And you won't level that up over your damage abilities. Sure it's shorter than Flash but it makes Talon a lot more gankable than something like Fizz or LB.

Kinda. its 160 seconds. but it only marks sections. so you can vault each side wall twice in mid lane, and then additionally the two walls near chickens and tower.

So you have to gank him 5 times in 160 seconds to lock him down unless he's crazy out of position, or you have a lot of CC mid.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
November 11 2016 22:03 GMT
#74
Ok, flex queue isn't quite calibrated yet I think.
Just played with a bronze and 3 silvers against a guy who was masters last season.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 11 2016 22:28 GMT
#75
about olaf, pretty sure the best setup is
WQQE, flat AD reds+quints, cdr blues, either Armor18 or HP18 yellows, 18/12/0 or 12/18/0, machete start
both me and kdog got 3:14 full clear but can probably squeeze out a few extra seconds
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 23:05:50
November 11 2016 23:05 GMT
#76
I really like what they're doing with Shyvanna on the PBE. Today they put up unique bonuses for her when her team gets elemental drakes.

5/7.5/10% damage converted to true for infernals.
10/15/20% less damage from monsters/towers from mountains.
5/10/15% slow resist from clouds.
5/10/15% CDR from oceans.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 11 2016 23:30 GMT
#77
On November 12 2016 08:05 Gahlo wrote:
I really like what they're doing with Shyvanna on the PBE. Today they put up unique bonuses for her when her team gets elemental drakes.

5/7.5/10% damage converted to true for infernals.
10/15/20% less damage from monsters/towers from mountains.
5/10/15% slow resist from clouds.
5/10/15% CDR from oceans.

Is the cdr capped at 45% afayk?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-12 00:25:26
November 12 2016 00:25 GMT
#78
On November 12 2016 08:30 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2016 08:05 Gahlo wrote:
I really like what they're doing with Shyvanna on the PBE. Today they put up unique bonuses for her when her team gets elemental drakes.

5/7.5/10% damage converted to true for infernals.
10/15/20% less damage from monsters/towers from mountains.
5/10/15% slow resist from clouds.
5/10/15% CDR from oceans.

Is the cdr capped at 45% afayk?

I think it's 5% per ocean dragon.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 12 2016 00:57 GMT
#79
CDR is capped at 40%, there was a point where a mastery granting CDR also moved the cap to 45% but that's all.
Also Riot loves champion-specific gimmicks to make them "different" (like Jhin critting towers and getting that huge bonus on his 4th auto 'cause hamfist best fist), so a long as it's not as dumb as Skarner's spires (where they should have learned their lesson) I won't be surprised.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
November 12 2016 02:26 GMT
#80
One thing that's starting to happen (at least in lower elos) is I'm seeing more master yi than I ever have before.

Someone (usually my midlane but sometimes top) tries out one of the new assasin reworks. Then the other team picks Yi. Then sometime in the mid game the assasin tries to do their thing on Yi, but Yi presses the Q button to completely negate it, then the Yi bursts down the assasin because they are squishy and he is Yi.

It's hilarious, but also sad because it's just cost me three games in a row.
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