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On November 22 2016 06:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
for a preseason patch this is absolutely meaningless, they didn't touch any obvious outliers right now and didn't fix any broken items. 2 weeks of avoiding league again. if they think starting the ranked season in 2 weeks is anywhere close to acceptable in this state then it just shows why "ranked" is so noncompetitive.
Not having nerfs on CotC and Redemption does seem pretty silly. What makes it even more silly is that in the patch note intro they state that there are no obvious outliers yet that compares to past outliers. It's like they don't see how using an item when you're dead or having a mastery that super stacks shielding especially when combined with all the other shielding that is recently popular can be off putting to say the least. Combine that with the fact that this was supposed to be an assassin's update, so why is all this healing and shielding overshadowing all but two or three of the assassins?
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This new champion lol. Not gonna lie looks pretty cool but also like one of these "absolutely useless cuz too low numbers or beyond broken".
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On November 22 2016 07:03 nafta wrote:
This new champion lol. Not gonna lie looks pretty cool but also like one of these "absolutely useless cuz too low numbers or beyond broken".
Sounds like a standard assassin to me. (sorry, i hate assassins)
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On November 22 2016 07:03 nafta wrote:
This new champion lol. Not gonna lie looks pretty cool but also like one of these "absolutely useless cuz too low numbers or beyond broken".
I wouldnt at all be surprised if she ends up in the jungle. AOE Damage plsu % max hp damage that heals, multiple auto attack resets, dashes that stun, and an ult that should guarantee a kil every time you use it in a gank.
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So this new champ.
% Shield ✔
Autoattack reset ✔✔
mobility ✔✔
% health damage ✔
knockup(on other targets, but she has it) ✔
heal ✔
slow ✔
stun ✔
arena ✔
Am I missing anything? Overloaded kits forever and always!
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On November 22 2016 08:58 Jek wrote:
You forgot true damage.
And magic damage.
Irelia 2.0
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On November 22 2016 06:40 lilwisper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2016 06:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
for a preseason patch this is absolutely meaningless, they didn't touch any obvious outliers right now and didn't fix any broken items. 2 weeks of avoiding league again. if they think starting the ranked season in 2 weeks is anywhere close to acceptable in this state then it just shows why "ranked" is so noncompetitive. Not having nerfs on CotC and Redemption does seem pretty silly. What makes it even more silly is that in the patch note intro they state that there are no obvious outliers yet that compares to past outliers. It's like they don't see how using an item when you're dead or having a mastery that super stacks shielding especially when combined with all the other shielding that is recently popular can be off putting to say the least. Combine that with the fact that this was supposed to be an assassin's update, so why is all this healing and shielding overshadowing all but two or three of the assassins?
None of the assassins are good right now imo if the opposition tryharding their picks (where good = optimal)
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I hope Camille can jungle. <3
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On November 22 2016 07:03 nafta wrote:
This new champion lol. Not gonna lie looks pretty cool but also like one of these "absolutely useless cuz too low numbers or beyond broken".
Don't worry, there will be a patch where its OP then one where its totally crap, and you will say "Broken Design" and people will say, "LOL n00B 45% winrate how is that broken 11!11"
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On November 22 2016 08:26 Amui wrote:
So this new champ.
% Shield ✔
Autoattack reset ✔✔
mobility ✔✔
% health damage ✔
knockup(on other targets, but she has it) ✔
heal ✔
slow ✔
stun ✔
arena ✔
Am I missing anything? Overloaded kits forever and always!
There's literally no champion that can be made now that someone won't make this inane post. It used to be about three-hit passives and revive passives, but never fear, we'll just replace that with shit like "arena" because that's so overused am i right?! Just selectively take a bunch of features and pretend like they are overused. Because apparently League is only allowed to have one champion that can "heal", "slow", "stun", or "autoattack reset".
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Does red -> krugs give lvl 3 now?
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On November 22 2016 14:04 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2016 07:03 nafta wrote:
This new champion lol. Not gonna lie looks pretty cool but also like one of these "absolutely useless cuz too low numbers or beyond broken". Don't worry, there will be a patch where its OP then one where its totally crap, and you will say "Broken Design" and people will say, "LOL n00B 45% winrate how is that broken 11!11"
On November 22 2016 14:20 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2016 08:26 Amui wrote:
So this new champ.
% Shield ✔
Autoattack reset ✔✔
mobility ✔✔
% health damage ✔
knockup(on other targets, but she has it) ✔
heal ✔
slow ✔
stun ✔
arena ✔
Am I missing anything? Overloaded kits forever and always! There's literally no champion that can be made now that someone won't make this inane post. It used to be about three-hit passives and revive passives, but never fear, we'll just replace that with shit like "arena" because that's so overused am i right?! Just selectively take a bunch of features and pretend like they are overused. Because apparently League is only allowed to have one champion that can "heal", "slow", "stun", or "autoattack reset".
Guess we didn't have to wait.
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Ok Riot, I got a quick nerf you can do. No more than one Redemption on a team. Simple.
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On November 22 2016 09:11 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2016 06:40 lilwisper wrote:On November 22 2016 06:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
for a preseason patch this is absolutely meaningless, they didn't touch any obvious outliers right now and didn't fix any broken items. 2 weeks of avoiding league again. if they think starting the ranked season in 2 weeks is anywhere close to acceptable in this state then it just shows why "ranked" is so noncompetitive. Not having nerfs on CotC and Redemption does seem pretty silly. What makes it even more silly is that in the patch note intro they state that there are no obvious outliers yet that compares to past outliers. It's like they don't see how using an item when you're dead or having a mastery that super stacks shielding especially when combined with all the other shielding that is recently popular can be off putting to say the least. Combine that with the fact that this was supposed to be an assassin's update, so why is all this healing and shielding overshadowing all but two or three of the assassins? None of the assassins are good right now imo if the opposition tryharding their picks (where good = optimal)
rengar,kha, fizz,lb are good and ban worthy
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On November 22 2016 14:21 Complete wrote:
Does red -> krugs give lvl 3 now?
Red into Krugs gives level 3.
You can walk into bot/top lane at like ~230 being level 3. Seemsgood.
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Krugs spawn time going to get nerfed again. Watch it spawn at 230. Loool.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On November 22 2016 15:11 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2016 14:04 cLutZ wrote:On November 22 2016 07:03 nafta wrote:
This new champion lol. Not gonna lie looks pretty cool but also like one of these "absolutely useless cuz too low numbers or beyond broken". Don't worry, there will be a patch where its OP then one where its totally crap, and you will say "Broken Design" and people will say, "LOL n00B 45% winrate how is that broken 11!11" Show nested quote +On November 22 2016 14:20 GrandInquisitor wrote:On November 22 2016 08:26 Amui wrote:
So this new champ.
% Shield ✔
Autoattack reset ✔✔
mobility ✔✔
% health damage ✔
knockup(on other targets, but she has it) ✔
heal ✔
slow ✔
stun ✔
arena ✔
Am I missing anything? Overloaded kits forever and always! There's literally no champion that can be made now that someone won't make this inane post. It used to be about three-hit passives and revive passives, but never fear, we'll just replace that with shit like "arena" because that's so overused am i right?! Just selectively take a bunch of features and pretend like they are overused. Because apparently League is only allowed to have one champion that can "heal", "slow", "stun", or "autoattack reset". Guess we didn't have to wait.
Not only does my post have no relation to your caricature (since I was commenting on how silly it is to pretend that "arena" is a cliche checklist feature in kits), you're also acting smug about stating an unfalsifiable assertion. That exact same list can be made for basically any champion in the game outside of Nunu/Warwick, and those are way shittier kits than this is.
If you genuinely think that champions like Thresh are worse designed than champions like Nunu because "OVERLOADED LUL" I'm not sure what to tell you, except that people like you have made this exact complaint about literally every champion released in the past three years and if you find a champion like this too confusing perhaps Overwatch is more your game.
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Riot's closest analogy in the reddit thread I saw was Irelia, a champ they have long admitted they have trouble with, second was Fiora, another one we can all agree is hard to get to work in their preferred paradigm of powercurves.
Even so, there are cliches as well about the design team, so his post was accurate and funny.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Do you want to play a game?
Slow ✔ ✔
Knockup ✔
Snare ✔
%Hp Heal ✔
%Hp Dmg ✔
Dash ✔
Untargetable ✔
Large AoE Damage Ultimate ✔
what champion am I talking about
how about another one
Slow ✔ ✔
Root ✔
Stun ✔
Untargetable ✔
Invulnerable ✔
Blink ✔
%Hp Heal ✔
Large AoE Damage ultimate ✔
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EPT
