EPThttp://lan.leagueoflegends.com/es/news/game-updates/special-event/fondo-de-pantalla-de-la-grieta-en-arte-pixelado
never even considered something video game related as my desktop background but this is beautiful imo.
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
http://lan.leagueoflegends.com/es/news/game-updates/special-event/fondo-de-pantalla-de-la-grieta-en-arte-pixelado never even considered something video game related as my desktop background but this is beautiful imo. | ||
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JJMC
Portugal83 Posts
On August 21 2015 23:37 GrandInquisitor wrote: This is already the case, though. If you were banned at the end of the season last season you didn't get rewards. How is this any different? Last season people weren't punished for something they did at the very start of the season. Minor punishments wouldn't also take away your rank rewards. On August 21 2015 23:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:The other way of looking at it is: in real life, this behavior would just get you "permabanned" from whatever sport or activity you choose. A basketball player who screams at his teammate for missing free throws isn't staying on the team at all. But they do. Like, you can literally just go to a training place and see coaches and players arguing with each other in ways that would be banned in League, and they stick together anyway. I don't get this point? On August 21 2015 23:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:(Someone right now is furiously typing a response "BUT WHAT IF YOUR TEAMMATE WAS BLOCKING YOUR SHOTS DELIBERATELY" - as if chat restrictions were only given out for flaming an intentional feeder teammate.) They make no distinction. You could literally just flame intentional feeders and you'd have the same punishment as the intentional feeder who's flaming the other players. Of course, if you just AFK'd discretely or intentionally fed/lost the game, but were a nice guy in chat, you get nothing. On August 21 2015 23:37 GrandInquisitor wrote: That's the appropriate comparison here, it's just that we're so desensitized to this stuff online that we somehow think the burden is on the victim to be using the mute button, not the asshole who's ruining someone else's game. It takes you 1 sec, you mute, it's done. How's that victim blaming? Like, you can mute and the problem's gone. If you make the decision not to solve it, over and over, and over; that's also your fault. It's like, there's a guy going through your street annoying you, and knocks on your door, you go and he starts mumbling and insulting you, and you don't close the door and peace out, you just sit there listening and get all offended at the outrageousness. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:06 chalice wrote: are they showing this on the NA/EU servers? http://lan.leagueoflegends.com/es/news/game-updates/special-event/fondo-de-pantalla-de-la-grieta-en-arte-pixelado never even considered something video game related as my desktop background but this is beautiful imo. Yea I see a link to it in my EUW client. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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JJMC
Portugal83 Posts
On August 22 2015 00:27 Prog wrote: What games are you playing in that you could be banned for flaming only intentional feeders? Seriously, I see perhaps 1 intentional feeder every 50 games. Master/Low Challenger in EUW. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
Thought the flaming happens at all elos in EUW At least in NA, most of the flaming is concentrated to platinum 1, while most high elo NA players treat the game as a huge joke (it really is) | ||
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JJMC
Portugal83 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On August 22 2015 01:09 JJMC wrote: I'm not talking about flamers, I'm talking about griefers, intentional feeders, losing on purpose, etc. Oh, that shit applies to high elo NA too | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 21 2015 16:48 Kaneh wrote: Did you know you can dislike people verbally being assholes AND champ select trolls? It not choose one or the other ffs. It just happens to be that banning for chatlogs as opposed to figuring out who had 'priority' on mid is much, much, easier. . You might be able to do both. Riot, doesn't. On August 21 2015 21:56 GrandInquisitor wrote: This is like one of my idiot detectors: if you believe in the statement "The death penalty is stupid because we're killing people to show them that killing people is wrong", then I assume you're an idiot. (By way of analogy, replace "death penalty" with "jail" and "killing" with "kidnapping".) It's just not comparable at all. On the one hand, you have people ruining games for other players, spoiling the reputation of the community, driving people away from the game. On the other, you are denying cosmetic rewards to the 5% worst people on the server. I see nothing inconsistent in thinking that the latter is OK and the former is not. I have limited sympathy for those who were chat restricted and got out of it and now can't get rewards. Maybe he really did change! I get it. That's slightly sad. I have much less sympathy for those in this thread and in Reddit who are essentially wholesale defending chat restricted players, suggesting that chat restrictions should have no impact whatsoever on ranked rewards. I have zero sympathy for you, you chose to be an asshole and assholes don't get nice things. I think its basically a silly thing to deny them rewards, I just don't think its as high a priority as Riot, and also I think their verbal threshold is far too low for a healthy community. People always say, "its not this or that" but with Riot it always is, and they tend to pick the wrong "this" at a higher rate than seems comprehensible (aka not replays, not sandbox, juggernauts never played competitively before worlds). | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 22 2015 01:12 nafta wrote: The worst part is that a lot of those guys already got banned on their mains and they learned what to write how to troll so you can't detect it unless you watch the game. Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc Yeah, this is what I mean by nafta living in an alternate universe. In over three years of League something like this has literally never happened to me. Literally never. I have seen exactly three intentional feeders in my games, ever, and all of them were from Season 4 or earlier. Verbally abusive players, on the other hand, used to be one in every two games; now it's dropped to about one in every five - still hundreds or thousands of times more common than intentional feeders. So when people come in here trying to excuse their chat restrictions by pointing to intentional feeders and trolls, I don't get it. Intentional feeders are so incredibly rare that it is just not part of the League experience for me. Besides, as I think we talked about earlier - what's the relevance? If you're chat restricted, you were an asshole, and you aren't any less of an asshole because you can point to even bigger assholes. You're basically resorting to the defense that "Found someone worse than me - see, at least I'm not literally the worst human being of all time!" | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 22 2015 02:04 GrandInquisitor wrote: Yeah, this is what I mean by nafta living in an alternate universe. In over three years of League something like this has literally never happened to me. Literally never. I have seen exactly three intentional feeders in my games, ever, and all of them were from Season 4 or earlier. Verbally abusive players, on the other hand, used to be one in every two games; now it's dropped to about one in every five - still hundreds or thousands of times more common than intentional feeders. So when people come in here trying to excuse their chat restrictions by pointing to intentional feeders and trolls, I don't get it. Intentional feeders are so incredibly rare that it is just not part of the League experience for me. Besides, as I think we talked about earlier - what's the relevance? If you're chat restricted, you were an asshole, and you aren't any less of an asshole because you can point to even bigger assholes. You're basically resorting to the defense that "At least I'm not literally the worst human being of all time!" Nobody in my family has gotten cancer.Does that mean cancer doesn't exist? | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On August 22 2015 02:07 nafta wrote: Nobody in my family has gotten cancer.Does that mean cancer doesn't exist? No. But if you didn't encounter cancer despite interacting with thousands and thousands of people it would seem that cancer is rare. I mean if you play 1 ranked game a day then you will see about 3200 random* people. That is enough for a confident sample even for low probability incidents. If you're legit not seeing many feeders then it's pretty good evidence. And we'll a lot of people have these similar experiences with regards to not seeing these people. And sure it's not a perfect study but it's about as damn close as we can get. Give that we expect that normal human biases will tend to make feeders seem more prominent if the anecdotal evidence suggests "low" then the answer probably is "low" *semi-random since you're limited by your MMR and it's likely that feeders congregate but eh. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 22 2015 02:07 nafta wrote: Nobody in my family has gotten cancer.Does that mean cancer doesn't exist? And if somebody in your family has cancer will you treat it with growth hormones? Because that is exactly what flaming a griefer does. The whole point of griefing is to wind others up and get them to rage at you. And you want to reserve your right to give them what they want. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Again you guys are just randomly assuming shit I never said.When did I say that you should flame people who are suiciding in the tower wtf? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote: Again you guys are just randomly assuming shit I never said.When did I say that you should flame people who are suiciding in the tower wtf? Well my apologies then, I thought this is what you were going for. | ||
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MagnusWolf
United States483 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 22 2015 02:26 nafta wrote: I do get why people flame them.Because realistically you are powerless vs them.Every time you get matched with them if you don't want to lose you have to dodge.Even if you don't give a shit you still make the other 3 people lose and waste everyone's time.Riot don't ban those players.So at one point you start flaming them.Especially at high elo when you get matched with these people multiple times in a row.Doesn't make it a good idea but is at least understandable. Well the troll will lose as much Elo as you do though. And he has to play with himself every game, so he should lose Elo quite fast. :D But seriously if someone plays very bad, doesnt group etc or trolls I think it makes sense to say to yourself "at least this guy didnt win the game". Might be some consolation. One loss here and there because of someone trolling will not change your Elo, as they exist on both sides. And you get to your "Elo home" always pretty fast after having a bad streak (or good streak). | ||
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