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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods?
On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that.
Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see.
Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS.
User was warned for this post
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Holy mother of fuck, you are salty. I mean I barely believe it either, but Jesus.
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Lol if you don't believe me I am not gonna convince you.Again when did I complain about how hard my life is wtf?You really love just adding 10 more lines to every single post.
I like how I got warned for calling you a shitter but you just doing this again and again is perfectly acceptable.
Also my favourite is how you assume I am complaining the people trolling are only on my team  .
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On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS.
http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lamptern
This guy got away with the most flagrant feeding for like 800 games
Also, there is this asshole feeder in every single one of my games
+ Show Spoiler +what's actually tragic is that people I've boosted still have their ranked rewards while some of my rager friends who legitimately got their elo won't be getting their rewards
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I don't think "not everyone is getting punished" is really an acceptable argument for "X person should not be punished"
It's like if you got ticketed for speeding you can't say "but officer, that other guy was speeding even more why can't you make sure to punish them first?"
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On August 22 2015 04:09 Zess wrote:
I don't think "not everyone is getting punished" is really an acceptable argument for "X person should not be punished"
It's like if you got ticketed for speeding you can't say "but officer, that other guy was speeding even more why can't you make sure to punish them first?"
It is a legitimate argument, however, when the police start prioritizing traffic stops over armed robbery. Which is what riot does.
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Only if you think intentional feeding/trolling is worse in some way than verbal harassment. I really doubt it's more prevalent, and it somehow ruining games worse than harassment is also debatable.
(The strategy thread is a lot more chill. I'm warming up to the split, honestly...)
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On August 22 2015 02:33 Redox wrote:Well the troll will lose as much Elo as you do though. And he has to play with himself every game, so he should lose Elo quite fast. :D
You do understand that some of these players are absolute beasts when they tryhard with their champion though, right? I mean, how the f*** did you think they got there in the first place?
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On August 22 2015 04:59 JJMC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 02:33 Redox wrote:Well the troll will lose as much Elo as you do though. And he has to play with himself every game, so he should lose Elo quite fast. :D You do understand that some of these players are absolute beasts when they tryhard with their champion though, right? I mean, how the f*** did you think they got there in the first place?
Indeed, they actually ruin many more games than the ones they troll in, because they are essentially trolling or smurfing in the majority of their games.
The bottom line is, Forg1ven was competitively suspended for, essentially, calling people shitters. He could have, instead, played Caitlyn in every game, regardless of whether there was another ADC in the game, taken the jungler's first buff, gone to the closest lane with said buff, and shit on that lane, probably still winning over 50% of his games in challenger, without being touched. On top of that, the people who (correctly) call him an asshole for doing that are highly likely to get chat restricted (or banned if they are competitive players).
On top of that, the failure to crack down on trolling creates a 2ndary problem that is more common than both flaming and trolling which is the Passive-Aggressive pick/ban pseudo troll, who implies he will troll if he doesn't get his way, and you have to be a clairvoyant Dr. Phil to know whether he will troll, or will begrudgingly play Janna support or some other FOTM pick in a role he doesn't like.
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On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS. User was warned for this post
This is an example of such a game: Notice the Garen
And yes, it's not as uncommon as you think it is.
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On August 21 2015 20:26 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 18:50 Ansibled wrote:
The system is never going to work anyway, you just replace insults with sarcasm. Riot really need to stop caring what people say, it's absurd. That will never happen sadly since there is an automated system.It can't detect sarcasm lol. How I see the whine "Oh no riot are going to take away my tiara....They ruined my sweet 16  " Also seems kind of stupid to punish the people who "reformed" and there were actually people like the guy who got restricted for flaming himself.
yeah if you use swear words you get banned but if you replace fuck with fuq and fag with fage and nigger with niger you won't get banned
works on TL too actually
but think of all the nigerians im offending
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 22 2015 05:41 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS. User was warned for this post This is an example of such a game: Notice the GarenAnd yes, it's not as uncommon as you think it is.
Hey, that's awesome. Except, that's not what I asked nafta for, and since he didn't put up I think we can call him out on the BS.
He claimed that 30% of his last ten games had intentional feeders. I would be shocked if it was 3%. As noted above my personal record with intentional feeders is more like 0.03%. So a few isolated games and profiles is kinda useful, yeah, but the ultimate question here is: how often does this happen? Because my thesis is that it basically never happens, and pointing to intentional feeders (as both clutz and nafta seem to love to in the never-ending quest to white-knight for chat restricted players) is a giant red herring, equivalent to saying "Why stop me for speeding WHEN THERE ARE TERRORISTS AFOOT".
Hence the "put up or shut up". If anyone here has a op.gg profile with 30% intentional feeders, or even 10% intentional feeders, I'd love to see it. I take silence to mean that everyone else doesn't have such a profile, and so saying stuff like "intentional feeding is such a huge problem for League" represents just pulling bullshit out of your ass to distract from the much more prevalent problem of verbal abuse.
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gg izi instead of gg ez works too btw
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On August 22 2015 05:41 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS. User was warned for this post This is an example of such a game: Notice the GarenAnd yes, it's not as uncommon as you think it is.
Problem is replays don't work for past patches so even if I wanted to I couldn't prove it and I literally said unless you watched the game you wouldn't be able to tell.
Also dodging reduces how often you see people in match history compared to how often you have to deal with them.
On August 22 2015 05:49 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 20:26 nafta wrote:On August 21 2015 18:50 Ansibled wrote:
The system is never going to work anyway, you just replace insults with sarcasm. Riot really need to stop caring what people say, it's absurd. That will never happen sadly since there is an automated system.It can't detect sarcasm lol. How I see the whine "Oh no riot are going to take away my tiara....They ruined my sweet 16 " Also seems kind of stupid to punish the people who "reformed" and there were actually people like the guy who got restricted for flaming himself. yeah if you use swear words you get banned but if you replace fuck with fuq and fag with fage and nigger with niger you won't get banned works on TL too actually but think of all the nigerians im offending
Never really felt like I had to use em lol.Just call people animals.Add nationality if you happen to know it.But meh I don't really flame enough to have to think about shit like that lol.
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On August 22 2015 05:53 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 05:41 Fildun wrote:On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS. User was warned for this post This is an example of such a game: Notice the GarenAnd yes, it's not as uncommon as you think it is. Hey, that's awesome. Except, that's not what I asked nafta for, and since he didn't put up I think we can call him out on the BS. He claimed that 30% of his last ten games had intentional feeders. I would be shocked if it was 3%. As noted above my personal record with intentional feeders is more like 0.03%. So a few isolated games and profiles is kinda useful, yeah, but the ultimate question here is: how often does this happen? Because my thesis is that it basically never happens, and pointing to intentional feeders (as both clutz and nafta seem to love to in the never-ending quest to white-knight for chat restricted players) is a giant red herring, equivalent to saying "Why stop me for speeding WHEN THERE ARE TERRORISTS AFOOT". Hence the "put up or shut up". If anyone here has a op.gg profile with 30% intentional feeders, or even 10% intentional feeders, I'd love to see it. I take silence to mean that everyone else doesn't have such a profile, and so saying stuff like "intentional feeding is such a huge problem for League" represents just pulling bullshit out of your ass to distract from the much more prevalent problem of verbal abuse.
id also be shocked with 3% intentional feeders in 10 games.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Well this is awkward ... http://ask.fm/RiotLyte/answer/131867181506
hahahahahaha
What it really goes to show you is to be careful with your modifiers. I think this is the cause of the problem:
"No, players that get a (chat restriction), (ranked restriction), or (game ban in 2015) will not receive End of Season Rewards"
vs
"No, players that get a ((chat restriction, ranked restriction, or game ban) in 2015) will not receive End of Season Rewards"
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On August 22 2015 05:53 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 05:41 Fildun wrote:On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS. User was warned for this post This is an example of such a game: Notice the GarenAnd yes, it's not as uncommon as you think it is. Hey, that's awesome. Except, that's not what I asked nafta for, and since he didn't put up I think we can call him out on the BS. He claimed that 30% of his last ten games had intentional feeders. I would be shocked if it was 3%. As noted above my personal record with intentional feeders is more like 0.03%. So a few isolated games and profiles is kinda useful, yeah, but the ultimate question here is: how often does this happen? Because my thesis is that it basically never happens, and pointing to intentional feeders (as both clutz and nafta seem to love to in the never-ending quest to white-knight for chat restricted players) is a giant red herring, equivalent to saying "Why stop me for speeding WHEN THERE ARE TERRORISTS AFOOT".
Hence the "put up or shut up". If anyone here has a op.gg profile with 30% intentional feeders, or even 10% intentional feeders, I'd love to see it. I take silence to mean that everyone else doesn't have such a profile, and so saying stuff like "intentional feeding is such a huge problem for League" represents just pulling bullshit out of your ass to distract from the much more prevalent problem of verbal abuse.
Thats a perfectly reasonable argument when there are terrorists afoot, and when the police keep buying radar guns instead of training bomb squads when 3%, 1% even .03% of the population decide to bomb stripmalls on a regular basis.
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I was wondering why it seemed overharsh on reformed folks. Now I've got no issue with it.
From checking out when the players actually sold those items, looks like your problem is more people having bad games than any kind of intentional feeding. The one case I'd say is absolutely bannable is that Hec (Edit: didn't notice Rumble; him too, maybe just a guy giving up out of salt, meh). Lee sold his items at 23 minutes, not long before the game ended, when you all were 6k behind. Not the most mature reaction, probably reportable. Similar with Zed. The other games look like guys dying early and losing hard. So what? Are we banning people for shit games now? And those are the 'instaban levels of obvious', huh.
I wonder what the chat looked like.
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On August 22 2015 05:53 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 05:41 Fildun wrote:On August 22 2015 02:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:I'm so confused. Your space bar obviously works but it's like you're not allowed to use it after periods? On August 22 2015 02:20 nafta wrote:
Well I have played with 3 in my last 10 for what it is worth.Also I don't consider going 0/10 cuz you are a bad player intentionally losing the game before you start telling me that. Pics or it didn't happen, put up or shut up. Show me that 30% of your games are filled with intentional feeders or something comparable to "Like picking eve jungle and dancing next to your mid,smiting his cannons,writing "sorry guys i am having a bad day/game" etc". Link that OP.GG and let's see. Either I learn a valuable lesson about how tough nafta's life is, or we get to call someone out on the BS. User was warned for this post This is an example of such a game: Notice the GarenAnd yes, it's not as uncommon as you think it is. Hey, that's awesome. Except, that's not what I asked nafta for, and since he didn't put up I think we can call him out on the BS. He claimed that 30% of his last ten games had intentional feeders. I would be shocked if it was 3%. As noted above my personal record with intentional feeders is more like 0.03%. So a few isolated games and profiles is kinda useful, yeah, but the ultimate question here is: how often does this happen? Because my thesis is that it basically never happens, and pointing to intentional feeders (as both clutz and nafta seem to love to in the never-ending quest to white-knight for chat restricted players) is a giant red herring, equivalent to saying "Why stop me for speeding WHEN THERE ARE TERRORISTS AFOOT". Hence the "put up or shut up". If anyone here has a op.gg profile with 30% intentional feeders, or even 10% intentional feeders, I'd love to see it. I take silence to mean that everyone else doesn't have such a profile, and so saying stuff like "intentional feeding is such a huge problem for League" represents just pulling bullshit out of your ass to distract from the much more prevalent problem of verbal abuse.
FFS dude.
You can just go through his match history and see it all, this was an obvious case with the summoners ofc, but there is a lot of other stuff that's less obvious in there as well.
When basically all the high ELO people on EUW say it's the case, it probably is. It's not just nafta here, you know.
He also never white-knighted chat restricted players.
We all know you love your strawmen (as seen in previous posts), but please cut it down.
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