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On September 01 2015 07:05 Alaric wrote: I know newcomers were really put off during TI5 though because the cosmetics made the models so different for some of them that they woudn't recognise the same hero between two games.
Hero recognition is harder in Dota, in general, though.
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Well, yeah, a guy from EA came out publicly and said that Riot could be making a fuckton more off of their players and Riot basically shrugged and said "Yeah, but that's not the point." They still made $1billion+ last year. The more oppressive the monetization becomes in League the more likely players are to leave for games that have more free stuff.
Riot creates consumer loyalty exactly through this. Don't get me wrong; I think Riot's absolutely great in what they do for E-sports (if gaming is ever going to be become an olympic sport like I think.. Ryze? at one point said was their dream the LCS is the way to do it). There's a long-term view here that's rare for a company as large as Riot. If they were to ever make a new game and it didn't blow they'd make billions in the first week because people believe they are gamers rather then businessmen like the folks at EA.
I also read a report at one point that guessed Riot was running at a net loss but it didn't matter because they attracted insane amounts of investor money because of this long-term view. Don't remember where it was though.
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Baa?21244 Posts
There is zero chance Riot is running at a net loss.
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riot has said in the past that the league specifically was, not them as a whole, although with coke and whatnot involved at this point I'm not so sure about that even.
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On September 01 2015 15:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: There is zero chance Riot is running at a net loss.
Oh most definitely. The only aspects that are running at a loss are doing so because of accounting trickery. LCS does not run at a loss. Its profits simply show up on the books under skin sales.
It would be like claiming your marketing division was making a loss because it move any merchandise.
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On September 01 2015 16:15 Slusher wrote: riot has said in the past that the league specifically was, not them as a whole, although with coke and whatnot involved at this point I'm not so sure about that even. If they don't count their own adverts for League then I'm pretty sure it still is.
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The report was from 2 years ago or something, so I can easily imagine it being true at that point. Even now I can see the game itself not being very profitable because of some of the crazy shit they do around it.
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is the nerfed viktor worth to play now? currently theres a creator viktor skin sale for me and not sure whether to buy.
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What defines troll picks? I mean if we assume that a person is playing his best, but picks an orthodox champ for a particular role. Garen adc, Garen support, zed jungle, zed support etc., everything like that. How do you know he is trolling? what indicates that this is a troll pick and gives you the right to preach on him? If he as support zed steals farm does it means that he is a troll because he picked zed or because he steals farm? If he steals farm with Sona, then what? Still the same as Zed?
I am not sure I can explain what I am trying to ask, but what provides you the right to point someone as a troll pick formally, a particular - official rules that you can judge based on?
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is riot ok with current state of devourer ? i still think this item is bonkers on certain champions -.-
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On September 01 2015 20:39 kongoline wrote: is riot ok with current state of devourer ? i still think this item is bonkers on certain champions -.-
I think it's fine. Some champs it's strong on, some champs its not. The key thing is the champs that it's strong on don't automatically dominate the whole game like Feral Flares first iteration did.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On September 01 2015 16:33 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 15:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: There is zero chance Riot is running at a net loss. Oh most definitely. The only aspects that are running at a loss are doing so because of accounting trickery. LCS does not run at a loss. Its profits simply show up on the books under skin sales. It would be like claiming your marketing division was making a loss because it move any merchandise. That's not accounting trickery. That's just a loss leader.
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On September 01 2015 19:36 justiceknight wrote: is the nerfed viktor worth to play now? currently theres a creator viktor skin sale for me and not sure whether to buy.
@justiceknight
It depends. In terms of win rate? Absolutely not. Viktor has a 47% win rate. This may change in the future but i sincerely doubt it. Viktor has never really been above a 50% and i don't expect that he or the meta will change in a way that makes it so. His advantages are hard to use in competitive and even harder in soloqueue.
In terms of play style? Maybe. Viktor is one of the few hard clear mid laners and so this can be valuable, especially if you're generally not a good mid player. Specific to the current meta; Viktor gets bodied by Ahri and Ahri is the most picked mid champion right now. But other champions like Kog and Anivia can probably fill that area better than viktor can.
In terms of aesthetics? Maybe. Creator Viktor is a skin I like a lot. But all of the skins for Viktor(including the base skin) are really good.Creator is full "Von Doom" while the others are all very "leaguey" so if you like that aesthetic then its a good pickup. Worth noting is that creator Viktor loses the hand. And so cannot do some of the staff grab animations
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Azir gets more dps but loses part of his burst from hitting a Q-aa-aa combo. Took them long enough to realise the amount of burst on a low cd from Q was an issue for the "sustained damage" mage. o/
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Oh damn they nerfed gp barrel setup as well as damage. Sadness.
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Champion buffs/nerfs all seem reasonable to me. Except some nerfs are missing like Fiora and Skarner. Hopefully those will come with 5.18.
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They already put through nerfs on Skarner in a hotfix on live. Don't know if that was enough since when I let him through my teammates feed so hard without him doing anything then blame it on Skarner
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