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Please use the gameplay patch discussion thread for discussing item builds, champion kits, and other things related to gameplay.

Please use this thread for discussion other things related to the game, such as the number of bans in ranked soloq, ranked teams, and competitive; speculation on game design and champion builds; toxicity in soloq; competitive integrity and sandbox mode; or how 739 is a robot designed to do nothing but Liquibet.

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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 01 2015 00:04 GMT
#601
On September 01 2015 07:05 Alaric wrote:
I know newcomers were really put off during TI5 though because the cosmetics made the models so different for some of them that they woudn't recognise the same hero between two games.


Hero recognition is harder in Dota, in general, though.
Freeeeeeedom
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
September 01 2015 06:37 GMT
#602

Well, yeah, a guy from EA came out publicly and said that Riot could be making a fuckton more off of their players and Riot basically shrugged and said "Yeah, but that's not the point." They still made $1billion+ last year. The more oppressive the monetization becomes in League the more likely players are to leave for games that have more free stuff.


Riot creates consumer loyalty exactly through this. Don't get me wrong; I think Riot's absolutely great in what they do for E-sports (if gaming is ever going to be become an olympic sport like I think.. Ryze? at one point said was their dream the LCS is the way to do it). There's a long-term view here that's rare for a company as large as Riot. If they were to ever make a new game and it didn't blow they'd make billions in the first week because people believe they are gamers rather then businessmen like the folks at EA.

I also read a report at one point that guessed Riot was running at a net loss but it didn't matter because they attracted insane amounts of investor money because of this long-term view. Don't remember where it was though.

Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 01 2015 06:44 GMT
#603
There is zero chance Riot is running at a net loss.
TranslatorBaa!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 01 2015 07:15 GMT
#604
riot has said in the past that the league specifically was, not them as a whole, although with coke and whatnot involved at this point I'm not so sure about that even.
Carrilord has arrived.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 01 2015 07:33 GMT
#605
On September 01 2015 15:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There is zero chance Riot is running at a net loss.


Oh most definitely. The only aspects that are running at a loss are doing so because of accounting trickery. LCS does not run at a loss. Its profits simply show up on the books under skin sales.

It would be like claiming your marketing division was making a loss because it move any merchandise.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 01 2015 07:57 GMT
#606
On September 01 2015 16:15 Slusher wrote:
riot has said in the past that the league specifically was, not them as a whole, although with coke and whatnot involved at this point I'm not so sure about that even.

If they don't count their own adverts for League then I'm pretty sure it still is.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
September 01 2015 08:57 GMT
#607
The report was from 2 years ago or something, so I can easily imagine it being true at that point. Even now I can see the game itself not being very profitable because of some of the crazy shit they do around it.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
September 01 2015 10:36 GMT
#608
is the nerfed viktor worth to play now? currently theres a creator viktor skin sale for me and not sure whether to buy.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
September 01 2015 11:32 GMT
#609
What defines troll picks? I mean if we assume that a person is playing his best, but picks an orthodox champ for a particular role. Garen adc, Garen support, zed jungle, zed support etc., everything like that. How do you know he is trolling? what indicates that this is a troll pick and gives you the right to preach on him? If he as support zed steals farm does it means that he is a troll because he picked zed or because he steals farm? If he steals farm with Sona, then what? Still the same as Zed?

I am not sure I can explain what I am trying to ask, but what provides you the right to point someone as a troll pick formally, a particular - official rules that you can judge based on?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 01 2015 11:39 GMT
#610
is riot ok with current state of devourer ? i still think this item is bonkers on certain champions -.-
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 01 2015 12:08 GMT
#611
On September 01 2015 20:39 kongoline wrote:
is riot ok with current state of devourer ? i still think this item is bonkers on certain champions -.-


I think it's fine. Some champs it's strong on, some champs its not. The key thing is the champs that it's strong on don't automatically dominate the whole game like Feral Flares first iteration did.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
September 01 2015 12:49 GMT
#612
On September 01 2015 16:33 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 15:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There is zero chance Riot is running at a net loss.


Oh most definitely. The only aspects that are running at a loss are doing so because of accounting trickery. LCS does not run at a loss. Its profits simply show up on the books under skin sales.

It would be like claiming your marketing division was making a loss because it move any merchandise.

That's not accounting trickery. That's just a loss leader.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 01 2015 18:50 GMT
#613
On September 01 2015 19:36 justiceknight wrote:
is the nerfed viktor worth to play now? currently theres a creator viktor skin sale for me and not sure whether to buy.


@justiceknight

It depends. In terms of win rate? Absolutely not. Viktor has a 47% win rate. This may change in the future but i sincerely doubt it. Viktor has never really been above a 50% and i don't expect that he or the meta will change in a way that makes it so. His advantages are hard to use in competitive and even harder in soloqueue.

In terms of play style? Maybe. Viktor is one of the few hard clear mid laners and so this can be valuable, especially if you're generally not a good mid player. Specific to the current meta; Viktor gets bodied by Ahri and Ahri is the most picked mid champion right now. But other champions like Kog and Anivia can probably fill that area better than viktor can.

In terms of aesthetics? Maybe. Creator Viktor is a skin I like a lot. But all of the skins for Viktor(including the base skin) are really good.Creator is full "Von Doom" while the others are all very "leaguey" so if you like that aesthetic then its a good pickup. Worth noting is that creator Viktor loses the hand. And so cannot do some of the staff grab animations
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 19:06:10
September 01 2015 19:05 GMT
#614
Patch notes: http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-517-notes
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 01 2015 19:24 GMT
#615
Azir gets more dps but loses part of his burst from hitting a Q-aa-aa combo. Took them long enough to realise the amount of burst on a low cd from Q was an issue for the "sustained damage" mage. o/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 01 2015 19:38 GMT
#616
Oh damn they nerfed gp barrel setup as well as damage. Sadness.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 01 2015 21:32 GMT
#617
Champion buffs/nerfs all seem reasonable to me. Except some nerfs are missing like Fiora and Skarner. Hopefully those will come with 5.18.
Off-season = best season
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 01 2015 21:33 GMT
#618
They already put through nerfs on Skarner in a hotfix on live. Don't know if that was enough since when I let him through my teammates feed so hard without him doing anything then blame it on Skarner
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 01 2015 22:40 GMT
#619
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