[Patch 5.16] League of Legends General Discussion - Page 29

On August 31 2015 22:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
Riot's system is both amazing and frustrating. if you are the kind of person that needs a lot of variety and options in your life, you will probably have to pay a bit for this game. For people like me that just have like 5-7 champs they enjoy playing and thats it, its really easy to not spend any money on this game.

I go through all the champions probably once a week and look at all of them and im just like "I dont want to play any of these.."

On August 31 2015 22:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
Riot's system is both amazing and frustrating. if you are the kind of person that needs a lot of variety and options in your life, you will probably have to pay a bit for this game. For people like me that just have like 5-7 champs they enjoy playing and thats it, its really easy to not spend any money on this game.

I go through all the champions probably once a week and look at all of them and im just like "I dont want to play any of these.."

On August 31 2015 01:01 Sonnington wrote:
I was wrong, runes are only 515, 1025, and 2050.

To play devils advocate, Riot's system isn't overly unfair. You don't need to buy all the champions to be competitive in ranked. In fact, a lot of people only play a handful of champs in ranked to get to high positions. So the IP grind just encourages people to spend real money in order for Riot to continue operations. So, in that respect, it's not totally unfair.

You could argue Dota 2 does it better by only offering cosmetic upgrades. Which is a fair point to make. They apparently also make more money per user on average. I think it's too late for Riot to go with an accessory skin system though.

On August 31 2015 22:36 krndandaman wrote:
Paying is fine. But as someone who HAS spent ~$40 on non-skin things (Champ/Rune pages/ip boosts) AND put in a lot of game time (4 years and probably around ~4k games both normal/ranked) I think it's sad that I'm still missing 20+ champions, niche runes, and 2 more runepages.

IMO if you shell out enough money for an average video game ($60?) you should be able to unlock everything within 2-3 years, but the current system does not work like this.

On August 31 2015 23:54 Sonnington wrote:

Yeah, I feel about the same way. Even though I have a compulsion to catch therm all.

One thing to remember about 60 dollar releases is how those games are meant to only be played for 10-60 hours. Leaning more towards the 10-20 hours for modern games. LoL easily beats that play time. It takes over 100 hours just to get to level 30. I personally feel a dollar an hour for entertainment is typically a fair price. So no matter how I cut it, LoL is an extremely efficient deal.

On August 31 2015 23:23 Slayer91 wrote:

There's free rotations if you want to play something different you know

On September 01 2015 00:29 nafta wrote:
Come on man in s1/2 you could play the free champs in ranked :D.

On August 31 2015 23:54 Sufficiency wrote:


I have said this in various places and I will try this again: dota2 is not even remotely comparable to LoL because Valve is a completely different beast. Comparing dota2 monetization to LoL's is extremely unfair.

Valve is more of a publisher than developer these days; they don't have to rely on dota2 to survive. In fact, Valve probably does not mind losing money on dota2 since to play dota2 you need to install Steam - which is basically advertisement for their platform (what do you see when you go into Steam? Oh yeah, a bunch of games Valve wants you to buy).

Riot has only one game and needs to make income from itself. Nothing is free in this world and Riot does need to maintain profitable to pay its employees and keep the servers running.

On September 01 2015 00:47 Sonnington wrote:


Those are fair points to make. Are you sure Valve loses money on Dota 2? I read an article where Dota 2 makes -more- money per user than LoL.

On September 01 2015 01:27 Sufficiency wrote:


Revenue per user is probably not the representative figure since it does not factor in the overheads which are independent of the servers. Also there are far fewer dota2 players.

My point is that profitability from dota2 is probably not Valve's top priority since its a Steam exclusive and the game by itself can be seen as marketing cost for Valve.