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[Patch 5.14] Bilgewater General Discussion - Page 7

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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 22 2015 17:37 GMT
#121
On July 22 2015 22:47 Numy wrote:
I love legs. I love thighs. I love dark hair. I love that whole black hair slightly over face thing. I loved how dangerous she looked. Those things are all gone :<. The old her would put on a strapon and show you how to use your genitals. That's hot man.


Would that count as a riposte?

Old fiora was much better mid and possibly bot than top lane, tanks kind of rekked her.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 22 2015 17:39 GMT
#122
On July 23 2015 02:37 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 22:47 Numy wrote:
I love legs. I love thighs. I love dark hair. I love that whole black hair slightly over face thing. I loved how dangerous she looked. Those things are all gone :<. The old her would put on a strapon and show you how to use your genitals. That's hot man.


Would that count as a riposte?

Old fiora was much better mid and possibly bot than top lane, tanks kind of rekked her.

pls stop trying to make fiora bot happen
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
July 22 2015 17:42 GMT
#123
I also cant move my items anymore.having sightstone on number 7 is pretty annoying.
...
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 22 2015 17:48 GMT
#124
On July 23 2015 02:39 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 02:37 Slayer91 wrote:
On July 22 2015 22:47 Numy wrote:
I love legs. I love thighs. I love dark hair. I love that whole black hair slightly over face thing. I loved how dangerous she looked. Those things are all gone :<. The old her would put on a strapon and show you how to use your genitals. That's hot man.


Would that count as a riposte?

Old fiora was much better mid and possibly bot than top lane, tanks kind of rekked her.

pls stop trying to make fiora bot happen


i already made it happen i got pentakills and shit
just because i feed in 5's when im hungry as shit doesnt mean its bad
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 22 2015 17:49 GMT
#125
i think new fiora splash art looks like a cartoon network cartoon
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
July 22 2015 17:59 GMT
#126
Fiora is not going to be a tank killer for your backline in teamfights. That is not a niche in this game. A bunch of sycophants said the same thing about returned Olaf.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 22 2015 18:01 GMT
#127
Because they're too silly to realise that 300 true damage every 5 seconds is nothing to a dude with 3k+ HP. Your point?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 18:18:30
July 22 2015 18:08 GMT
#128
On July 23 2015 02:42 GiftPflanZe wrote:
I also cant move my items anymore.having sightstone on number 7 is pretty annoying.


Same issues man. Some people saying they fine on EUW so idk why we having issues.

edit: Alaric what's your LoL id?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 22 2015 18:14 GMT
#129
Ended up with GP in ARAM. They had Jinx so barrels were hard as fuck to use. Basically have to setup a chain before the fight, using bushes, and they have to walk nearby, or you can NEVER use a barrel.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 22 2015 18:19 GMT
#130
the announcer is too talkative
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 18:30:59
July 22 2015 18:19 GMT
#131
So after playing a couple of games rather than just sitting around in options menus these are the things that annoy me the most.

The disable hud animations option seems to do nothing now and everything on the hud has some fascination with glowing at annoying times.

The scale of the ui is much larger than before and if I want it to not take up the entire screen then I have to accept having small numbers to read. Everything also just feels really compacted, champion icons especially.

I miss having the c menu pop up and being able to read stats from it quickly.

I don't get why they removed names from the scoreboard unless you hover.

I like being able to rearrange the scoreboard and the new minimap though.

This looks infinitely better...

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'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 22 2015 18:23 GMT
#132
Id's Armoric.

The announcer doesn't annoy me too much, it's more a combo: between the accent, the music (it's not too loud, but definitely has more "presence" than the ambient Howling Abyss one) and the sounds of the game, it's not too easy to get what he says sometimes.
The parts that annoy me most are the big-ass zoom (I disliked how HA is zoomed out by default because it fucks with your "edge of max range" casts, though... can't they just use the default cam?), and how hard to see this version of "Mark" is. Several times I've gotten clipped by one I should have seen coming, but that colour on the ground + the tinier particle make it really harder to see.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
July 22 2015 18:27 GMT
#133
On July 23 2015 03:01 Alaric wrote:
Because they're too silly to realise that 300 true damage every 5 seconds is nothing to a dude with 3k+ HP. Your point?

If she could perform that function in teamfights, I don't see how they could make her laning damage to Maokai, etc less. And then she is just an overtuned champion.
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 22 2015 18:28 GMT
#134
On July 23 2015 03:19 Ansibled wrote:


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[image loading]

it is basically the old one though
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 22 2015 18:31 GMT
#135
The truth of the matter is that anything which kills a tank fast kills non-tanks as fast if not faster. That's why there's no anti-tank niche.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
July 22 2015 18:36 GMT
#136
On July 22 2015 22:47 Numy wrote:
I love legs. I love thighs. I love dark hair. I love that whole black hair slightly over face thing. I loved how dangerous she looked. Those things are all gone :<. The old her would put on a strapon and show you how to use your genitals. That's hot man.


New ultimate skin: Femdom/Pegging Fiora. Oh god why...

at least the nightraven skin is still nice and headmaster. but i agree, i miss the hair over the face
North Korea is best Korea!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 22 2015 18:37 GMT
#137
only complaint with new UI for me is that minimum scaling is significantly bigger
Carrilord has arrived.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 22 2015 19:01 GMT
#138
On July 23 2015 03:31 Seuss wrote:
The truth of the matter is that anything which kills a tank fast kills non-tanks as fast if not faster. That's why there's no anti-tank niche.


They can work around that with the %health true damage, and make her not solely a tank killer by making it require a ton of AD.

She'll probably be overtuned, but the theory's there.
XDG Mata
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 22 2015 19:01 GMT
#139
On July 23 2015 03:27 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 03:01 Alaric wrote:
Because they're too silly to realise that 300 true damage every 5 seconds is nothing to a dude with 3k+ HP. Your point?

If she could perform that function in teamfights, I don't see how they could make her laning damage to Maokai, etc less. And then she is just an overtuned champion.

Her base % are low, and her ratios scale with levels, so it doesn't actually look that strong in laning (in a burst situation; as far as sustained damage goes, the whole "random direction to hit from for the bonus" makes it way too volatile to evaluate like that; it looks like its uptime is permanent though, unless Vitals disappear when they're far from Fiora).

You also neglect the %max HP nature of the damage. Olaf's is negligible if people stack HP, Fiora's always relevant. Her ult also brings higher burst potential since Olaf's gated by a cooldown (although depending on RNG it looks like even without her ult she could spam it if a Vital doesn't take too long to activate).

Monte, it depends: the thing is that tank-busting tools are usually made to deal quickly with higher HP pools, such as %current health damage, or to bypass resistances stacking, such as true damage.
The former reduces the EHP gap quickly (relatively speaking), but once it's done the squishy still dies way faster to your "sustained damage" than the tank.
The latter needs a decent base value so as not to feel too pointless if people stack HP, meaning a squishy who didn't still lose a good chunk of his HP.

You'd need to mix and match mechanics to account for the differences a single one doesn't cover, and you'd end up with stuff like %current health true damage, bonus armour/MR penetration (like Yasuo, but without the silly crit scaling to 2-shot low HP pools), or a combination of "bonus pen" and %health damage so that you can use low enough values to only deal moderate damage to squishies (relative to their EHP) while still taking a large chunk of tanks.

But then you end up with a kit that's really hard to itemise against.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 22 2015 19:23 GMT
#140
The new zeke is so fucking good.Makes twitch legit insane right now if you can get through lane.
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