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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 22 2015 21:52 GMT
#161
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 21:57:45
July 22 2015 21:54 GMT
#162
The blue hue on the minimap makes it harder to read for me, and it doesn't stand out as much from the actual map for me. Bleh.
There's so much wrong with it. So much wrong people mentioned too, but better ignore it duh.

I mean, I could get people asking to stop complaining and stuff and that Riot will listen to it, but when the Dominion score thing shows that they didn't even bother testing it thoroughly, you can't expect them to actually change it further based on feedback, even on PBE.
They basically changed the icons for oom stuff (and made the cooldown part (and level-up, and skill level-up, because they're basically the same animation, such good intuition!) even more ambiguous/distracting) and moved the game timer to be more visible... after they reduced its font, and without moving the kda, team kills, and cs back top along with it. And that's it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 22 2015 23:33 GMT
#163
Well, I played some GP top and the complete lack of mobility and the pretty weak 1v1 ability especially vs dashes(feels impossible to land barrels vs character with those) makes me think that he doesn't really work well in the toplane. Feels like he loses to just about anyone in extended trades and comparing him to another 0 mobility champion, Darius, he doesn't even come close to the pure 1v1ing ability.

Maybe he just needs to be played mid, but I still don't see when you'd have the chance to even proc the passive. As is it just seems to be hitting at the wrong times when you're trying to lasthit or something. If Parrrley procced it, it would help but I realize that that would probably be OP.

The damage of his barrels is pretty crazy with a nice barrel combo and some items but it's a mystery to me how you are supposed to get there...
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 23 2015 00:01 GMT
#164
On July 23 2015 08:33 Shikyo wrote:
Well, I played some GP top and the complete lack of mobility and the pretty weak 1v1 ability especially vs dashes(feels impossible to land barrels vs character with those) makes me think that he doesn't really work well in the toplane. Feels like he loses to just about anyone in extended trades and comparing him to another 0 mobility champion, Darius, he doesn't even come close to the pure 1v1ing ability.

Maybe he just needs to be played mid, but I still don't see when you'd have the chance to even proc the passive. As is it just seems to be hitting at the wrong times when you're trying to lasthit or something. If Parrrley procced it, it would help but I realize that that would probably be OP.

The damage of his barrels is pretty crazy with a nice barrel combo and some items but it's a mystery to me how you are supposed to get there...


Maybe he is meant to be played in a laneswap where he can just cheese farm with his Q.
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 00:37:21
July 23 2015 00:36 GMT
#165
Easiest way to land barrels is dropping them and immediately chaining one you already had in a bush or far back in a minion wave. If you're quick enough, it doesn't matter what you're against. Poke people down by doing that, getting the two passive procs, and running away. Only W on very low health or to remove CC. Start flask, level Q most of the time. I think E might have a place, but getting quicker ult upgrades and the base damage is probably better. Triforce should be your first item 100% of the time, imo. Get Sheen first. Mana is health in lane. After that, probably Hydra, full tank is justifiable if your team needs it. Think Shiv is a bit overrated. If you're against Gnar or some ranged bully, why did you pick GP, but just play ultrasafe and Q farm. Most everyone else, it's just a matter of using barrels and splitting the whole game.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 23 2015 00:38 GMT
#166
thing is, placing barrel and shooting the first one and then the time for the second barrel to proc, at least for me champions with dashes could get out of the way and you can only do that like, every 30 seconds. But yeah of course I am not playing the champion optimally yet, but on the other hand opponents will become better at fighting vs GP as well...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 23 2015 00:50 GMT
#167
Just had my teammate Janna's ult knock me back into the enemy team at the same time as it dispersed them. It only happened once (was an ARAM) but that, uh... that was surprising. o_o
"Wtf am I propelled into them!? Oh I'm dead."
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 00:59:59
July 23 2015 00:56 GMT
#168
It's a lot better in scenarios where you're getting chased. That and the slow are why I think there might be some merit to leveling E first. Decreased recharge time and an 80% slow is solid, but at the cost of getting ult upgrades at half the speed...

They should probably increase the tickdown rate, if they do anything to the barrels. Just some usability improvements. His early game at the moment is 'farm and hope you're against somebody you can poke well.' I think his barrels will take a lot of getting used to depending on matchup. He's likely strong enough to split mid-game even if you're even. Barrels and W make you hard to kill solo. W being a lot stronger rank 1 at low health is pretty solid.

Also, I'd definitely build a ton of CDR, the question is where. Boots and a Ghostblade, maybe. But the barrels are too good not to get it somewhere early-ish. GB's flat pen is probably great for barrels as well.

His lategame is better than I'd have thought. The damage and barrel tickdown are silly. But you're still an immobile melee champ.
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DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
July 23 2015 01:30 GMT
#169
GP is so so terrible vs rengar. You cant kill the barrel before he does, if its in leap range from bush.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 23 2015 01:32 GMT
#170
On July 23 2015 10:30 DiracMonopole wrote:
GP is so so terrible



dat disjointed rework. hes even more meh at everything across the board then before.
I come in for the scraps
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 01:34:45
July 23 2015 01:33 GMT
#171
I mean, it's mostly a flat buff if you know how to actually play the game, but feel free to think so.

On July 23 2015 10:30 DiracMonopole wrote:
GP is so so terrible vs rengar. You cant kill the barrel before he does, if its in leap range from bush.


Yeah, GP into an assassin sounds like a recipe for suffering. He'd probably just straight kill you at the chance and zone you otherwise.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 23 2015 01:42 GMT
#172
On July 23 2015 10:33 Caiada wrote:
I mean, it's mostly a flat buff if you know how to actually play the game, but feel free to think so.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 10:30 DiracMonopole wrote:
GP is so so terrible vs rengar. You cant kill the barrel before he does, if its in leap range from bush.


Yeah, GP into an assassin sounds like a recipe for suffering. He'd probably just straight kill you at the chance and zone you otherwise.


could you post your credentials? you seem to just post for the sake of disagreeing with people on talking down on them. are you even any good?
I come in for the scraps
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 01:49:38
July 23 2015 01:47 GMT
#173
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 01:49:59
July 23 2015 01:49 GMT
#174
0-5 Avalon, the more things change the more they stay the same

oh it's not him lol
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 01:53:22
July 23 2015 01:53 GMT
#175
On July 23 2015 10:49 Slusher wrote:
0-5 Avalon, the more things change the more they stay the same

oh it's not him lol


Did Avalon finally get benched?

Can we pull out all of the comments about Avalon we made to guitar earlier this year and humour him? Or would that be so rude that it's worthy of a ban?
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 23 2015 02:06 GMT
#176
On July 23 2015 10:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 10:33 Caiada wrote:
I mean, it's mostly a flat buff if you know how to actually play the game, but feel free to think so.

On July 23 2015 10:30 DiracMonopole wrote:
GP is so so terrible vs rengar. You cant kill the barrel before he does, if its in leap range from bush.


Yeah, GP into an assassin sounds like a recipe for suffering. He'd probably just straight kill you at the chance and zone you otherwise.


could you post your credentials? you seem to just post for the sake of disagreeing with people on talking down on them. are you even any good?


I don't pretend to be good at playing the game, as if that matters. I just don't like people going off with poorly argued points. Apologies for the overly blunt response.

I disagree because a) that's what arguing and discussion are about, and b) I've got pretty uncommon opinions.

Now, if you've got an actually productive thing to say about current Gangplank, you should probably start with that instead of some vague stuff about identity and ignoring the fact that he's got a whole new damaging skill that's much, *much* better than his old E by absolutely any stretch of logic if you know how to actually use it. The natural conclusion is that somebody who thinks GP was nerfed is that they thus don't know how to use it.

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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 02:08:39
July 23 2015 02:08 GMT
#177
Hoooooooo Tahm Kench is selected in NACS in case you are interested http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 23 2015 02:09 GMT
#178
is it on live? I think he's good as of today
Carrilord has arrived.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 23 2015 02:09 GMT
#179
Oh no, he's support....

And fuck I wish Alex would just pick something normal. I mean, ffs, Azir is up.
XDG Mata
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 23 2015 02:10 GMT
#180
On July 23 2015 11:09 Slusher wrote:
is it on live? I think he's good as of today


Probably 5.13.
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