EPTDeficio and Dentist suspended - Page 2
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
As a Rioter, he will also be subject to internal disciplinary measures which by law are confidential. Someone go photoshop a picture of Deficio getting tortured in a dungeon please. | ||
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Someone go photoshop a picture of Deficio getting tortured in a dungeon please. With Nick Allen holding a belt | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I don't get it. Dentist did nothing wrong? Deficio did nothing wrong? Why are they being punished. Telling your team you are cheating is bad/over the line, even if you're lying about it. It encourages your team to cheat. That's why Dentist got in trouble. Deficio's situation is simply about conflict of interest. | ||
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Saradin
456 Posts
Deficio... didn't really do anything wrong in terms of day to day human ethics (ie no individual harmed), but it was unprofessional of him to discuss certain things with players as a Rioter. It's just not good image-wise for the legitimacy of a competitive (e-)sport. And you want to hit hard enough the first time to dissuade future instances. Riot's long term goals include legitimizing League as an 'e-sport', as a long term thing, beyond it being 'just another videogame'. Image is crucial here. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
Finding out what strategy your opponents are using isn't cheating, it's called preparationl. (and he didn't even do it to boot)... | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Gotta protect that competitive integrity. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:20 Saradin wrote: Dentist basically condoned cheating, so he's actually getting off light. Deficio... didn't really do anything wrong in terms of day to day human ethics (ie no individual harmed), but it was unprofessional of him to discuss certain things with players as a Rioter. It's just not good image-wise for the legitimacy of a competitive (e-)sport. And you want to hit hard enough the first time to dissuade future instances. Riot's long term goals include legitimizing League as an 'e-sport', as a long term thing, beyond it being 'just another videogame'. Image is crucial here. He breached his contract with Riot Games. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Hacking the game to make your ability cooldown go from 24s to 20s is cheating... Finding out what strategy your opponents are using isn't cheating, it's called preparationl. (and he didn't even do it to boot)... There's a crucial distinction here you're missing. Having a general knowledge of the types of strategies the enemy team employs based on their public history is fine because it's in the past and public knowledge. Knowing exactly what the enemy team is going to do beforehand because you gained access to private information is cheating. It's why the Patriots got nailed for spying on cameras pointed at opposing coaches. That he didn't actually do it is probably why he got off lightly, but by saying he was doing it he encouraged his team to cheat. As a coach you shouldn't encourage your team to cheat, hence punishment. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
wat, if i'm reading this correctly. what did deficio do that was so damning, much less anything that warrants any action? At this point, all riot casters should avoid talking to anyone that isn't strictly a Riot employee. So fucking absurd. | ||
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cythaze
830 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:37 Seuss wrote: There's a crucial distinction here you're missing. Having a general knowledge of the types of strategies the enemy team employs based on their public history is fine because it's in the past and public knowledge. Knowing exactly what the enemy team is going to do beforehand because you gained access to private information is cheating. It's why the Patriots got nailed for spying on cameras pointed at opposing coaches. That he didn't actually do it is probably why he got off lightly, but by saying he was doing it he encouraged his team to cheat. As a coach you shouldn't encourage your team to cheat, hence punishment. spying on someone with cameras and using leaked information is a lot different imo. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Hacking the game to make your ability cooldown go from 24s to 20s is cheating... Finding out what strategy your opponents are using isn't cheating, it's called preparationl. (and he didn't even do it to boot)... Condoning the solicitation of leaks is just as bad as leaks themselves, from a competitive integrity point of view. The fact that he implied there was a Riot employee involved just makes it that much scummier. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:08 Zess wrote: Because Riot produces the game, sponsors/runs the tournaments, provides production, provides talent, and provides the oversight / regulatory body, they have to be extra strict on everything or else it all falls apart, because if you run everything, there can't be any lack of transparency if you want to still seem like a legitimate organization. That's the goal anyways. On June 04 2015 06:44 Slayer91 wrote: is it bad i thought exactly the same thing as wei2? Nah, its just Riot being a bit too controlling for most people, so it leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. They are kind of this moralistic cartel that is causing a lot of the so called "little guys" to lose out on a lot of economic opportunities. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On June 04 2015 06:21 BrownBear wrote: Condoning the solicitation of leaks is just as bad as leaks themselves, from a competitive integrity point of view. The fact that he implied there was a Riot employee involved just makes it that much scummier. Or or or, it adds complexity to the preparation, both in and out of the game, thus differentiating the good teams from the great teams. It's a very hazy line that Riot is drawing here on what is and isn't acceptable. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 04 2015 05:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I don't get it. Dentist did nothing wrong? Deficio did nothing wrong? Why are they being punished. Well read the ruling maybe? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 04 2015 06:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Or or or, it adds complexity to the preparation, both in and out of the game, thus differentiating the good teams from the great teams. It's a very hazy line that Riot is drawing here on what is and isn't acceptable. what really happened was Deficio whisperd into Dentist's ears, "+ Show Spoiler [not riot approved] + gg ez | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
I don't really understand how not disclosing a job offer, if that's the only thing Deficio did (?), ends up in a 1.5 year ban from being involved in LCS in addition to the other punishment. Why does Deficio even have a 'competitive ruling' when he's not involved in the actual competition? | ||
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