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Majax
Profile Joined December 2014
France816 Posts
June 07 2015 12:56 GMT
#141
On June 07 2015 05:30 Sufficiency wrote:
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On June 07 2015 01:37 Majax wrote:
So this was about the SK-CW game, and this explained why the mact was delayed.

SK addressed their point our view in their "press conference" :



Can you spell out the important bits for those who can't watch the video?


Sk are not happy with what happened, they had the impressions that their strat had being leaked to CW and felt betrayed and are not satified with the punishement despite them accepting the fact that Riot investigation uncovered no proof of leaking info from Deficio's side. Nothing more.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 07 2015 19:41 GMT
#142
On June 06 2015 08:34 Sonnington wrote:
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On June 06 2015 07:19 Saradin wrote:
The guy who reported is the one who did the right thing to do, ethics-wise.

On June 04 2015 14:15 cLutZ wrote:
On June 04 2015 13:58 Saradin wrote:
'down the road' is not just Deficio. It's a warning shot for the rest of your current, and future, employees. A nip it in the bud sort of mentality.


Well its also telling potential future employees (and those with contracts upcoming) that they should demand significantly higher salaries from Riot than from comparable corps. Its somewhat short-sighted, because right now many of their employees are basically LOL-only personalities, but this could be a reason not many respected people are flowing into the dev side of the company, and it may be why Monte is so reluctant to become an LCS caster and Joe/Deman preferred migrating to other games with far less exposure.

It will be very interesting to see if Riot is a 1-hit wonder developer or if they can expand. Because many of their moves do seem to assume that their brand is built on being an elite company with ingenious ideas, instead of a few, somewhat lucky things they did in 2008, 09, 10 plus institutional momentum


If a prospective future employee can successfully demand a higher salary, more power to them. You're 'worth' what you can command, anyway.

My interpretation of Riot's moves is that they've basically put all their eggs in one basket, League of Legends. At most, they may make more products using the IP, but I don't see them branching out beyond this franchise. Here I wrote a bit about my personal guess of Riot's intention, although it's messy.
Basically the lack of other games in the past 5+ years combined with the resources poured into the competitive environment tells me that Riot isn't necessarily following conventional videogame industry goals. I think that there's a bigger picture ambition here that I'm surprised at how few people discuss.

To you and everyone else defending the snitch. I hope someday something you say, that's rather outrageous, gets taken out of context and you get reported to HR or have the cops called on you. Thus tarnishing your reputation. Then you can tell me how ethical it is to take your issues to extremes by reporting people like a pussy rather than dealing with your own problems like a man.

In any event, I agree that Riot is going for the long haul with LoL as a sport. I think a lot of us take that fact for granted. There was a snippet of something on Riot's corporate website from an e-sports director or manager stating their plan for LoL to stay a viable e-sport for decades to come.


My God, you need to take it down a notch. I get your stance, but you're abrasive needlessly.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9633 Posts
June 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#143
On June 06 2015 08:34 Sonnington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:19 Saradin wrote:
The guy who reported is the one who did the right thing to do, ethics-wise.

On June 04 2015 14:15 cLutZ wrote:
On June 04 2015 13:58 Saradin wrote:
'down the road' is not just Deficio. It's a warning shot for the rest of your current, and future, employees. A nip it in the bud sort of mentality.


Well its also telling potential future employees (and those with contracts upcoming) that they should demand significantly higher salaries from Riot than from comparable corps. Its somewhat short-sighted, because right now many of their employees are basically LOL-only personalities, but this could be a reason not many respected people are flowing into the dev side of the company, and it may be why Monte is so reluctant to become an LCS caster and Joe/Deman preferred migrating to other games with far less exposure.

It will be very interesting to see if Riot is a 1-hit wonder developer or if they can expand. Because many of their moves do seem to assume that their brand is built on being an elite company with ingenious ideas, instead of a few, somewhat lucky things they did in 2008, 09, 10 plus institutional momentum


If a prospective future employee can successfully demand a higher salary, more power to them. You're 'worth' what you can command, anyway.

My interpretation of Riot's moves is that they've basically put all their eggs in one basket, League of Legends. At most, they may make more products using the IP, but I don't see them branching out beyond this franchise. Here I wrote a bit about my personal guess of Riot's intention, although it's messy.
Basically the lack of other games in the past 5+ years combined with the resources poured into the competitive environment tells me that Riot isn't necessarily following conventional videogame industry goals. I think that there's a bigger picture ambition here that I'm surprised at how few people discuss.

To you and everyone else defending the snitch. I hope someday something you say, that's rather outrageous, gets taken out of context and you get reported to HR or have the cops called on you. Thus tarnishing your reputation. Then you can tell me how ethical it is to take your issues to extremes by reporting people like a pussy rather than dealing with your own problems like a man.

In any event, I agree that Riot is going for the long haul with LoL as a sport. I think a lot of us take that fact for granted. There was a snippet of something on Riot's corporate website from an e-sports director or manager stating their plan for LoL to stay a viable e-sport for decades to come.


that's an intensely false equivalence. saying something off color and potentially offensive is not the same as undermining the integrity of a company. which they did. whether it was intentional or not is debatable for sure, and the punishment should reflect that (not that I think it did. way too heavy handed.)

but a corporation can't let their employees risk the integrity of the corporation. going to HR in this scenario is absolutely the right move. in my own personal opinion that was clearly not the intention here, and that's super relevant for sure. but good intentions don't change the gravity of the risk.
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