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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Riot Games has announced that Copenhagen Wolves head coach  Karl "Dentist" Krey and caster  Martin "Deficio" Lynge are both suspended from the LCS until week four. Dentist is being disciplined on the grounds of misleading his players about information provided by Deficio on SK Gaming and complicit in tampering with players. Deficio is suspended on the grounds of tampering with players by discussing them joining Copenhagen Wolves. The result of SK v Copenhagen Wolves will remain unaffected by the judgement. Deficio will also be barred from casting Copenhagen Wolves matches indefinitely.
SK Gaming vs. Copenhagen Wolves
Having reviewed all the evidence, we found no proof that Deficio shared any in-game strategy with competing teams, or affected the outcome of the game in question - SK Gaming vs. Copenhagen Wolves on Thursday, May 28. Having concluded the investigation, we stand by the result of the match.
Karl “Dentist” Krey
By making false claims (by his own admission) to his team that Deficio was providing information on other teams’ strategy, Dentist knowingly misled his own players and created the expectation that cheating was an acceptable part of team play. Equally, Dentist obstructed the investigation by changing his story and initially denying making these claims to the Copenhagen Wolves team, though he ultimately cooperated after being presented with evidence. Above all, Dentist was complicit in tampering that could compromise the integrity of the LCS. As a result, we will be suspending Dentist from the LCS until Week Four.
Martin “Deficio” Lynge
The evidence of tampering that we uncovered shows that Deficio has not lived up to the high standards of integrity we hold all Rioters to and contravened internal policies and league rules. These standards are higher than those we ask of LCS players, managers, and owners, and represent our trust in the judgment of Rioters. Despite his full cooperation with this investigation, we take this lapse in judgment extremely seriously. As such, we will be suspending Deficio from on-air duties until Week Four and in talking to Martin we’ve mutually decided to withdraw him from the casting desk for all Copenhagen Wolves games on an indefinite basis to help avoid any future conflict of interest. As a Rioter, he will also be subject to internal disciplinary measures which by law are confidential.
Furthermore, we will be restricting Deficio from being approved as a Team Member (player, coach, manager, or owner) for any LCS team for the rest of the 2015 and the entirety of the 2016 season. This does not prevent him from joining an external organization in another capacity, but given the breach of trust we feel that this ruling is important to protect the competitive integrity of the LCS and to demonstrate our intolerance for any tampering or inappropriate influence over any LCS games, teams or organizations.
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Deficio's statement
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I like how the suspension specifically prevents him from seeking gainful employment (assuming his skills are no post-secondary) unless he stays with Riot.
I mean it's good news for me(because I like his casting) but it's kinda lol if you think about it.
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Deficio's statement from FB:
Hello guys.
I want to share a personal statement in light of the recent competitive ruling (http://na.lolesports.com/…/competitive-ruling-martin-%E2%80…).
Leading up to the summer split, I have made some poor decisions and not respected the seriousness of the matter. I should have informed Riot about my offer the moment I received it and not discussed the situation with any active LCS players. When two friends talk one thing often leads to another and opinions get shared that should have stayed private.
Throughout my career as pro player and shoutcaster, I have always been close with a lot of players and I value these relationships very highly. This will not change but I have had to learn the difference between talking to a player as friends and talking as a Rioter. It is 100% NOT okay to give opinions on career choices and to share your own potential future plans as a Rioter, as it can impact a player´s decision making. While I never intended any harm, I definitely didn’t act in the professional manner that I expect from myself and as Riot expects from me.
I want to first and foremost apologize to the fans that support me, to Riot, our broadcast team here in Europe and everyone watching the LCS. I can say that this will never happen again. My focus always has been and will remain on making this the best EU LCS split and to keep improving my shoutcasting. I will prepare and be ready for week 4 to deliver a great show.
Thank you for reading my message and thank you to everyone who follows my career and supports it.
Personally of the opinion Deficio did nothing wrong, but holy shit Dentist, you kinda have a lot to answer for.
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hahahahah fucking riot man
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What exactly did Deficio do?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
You know, what's most suffering thing?
No Deficio for 20 games at least, can I get stats on muted streams percentage already?
On June 04 2015 04:41 Ansibled wrote:
What exactly did Deficio do?
Apparently, almost got poached by CW plus you can't discuss things in private as Rioter.
Dentist sucks more in this situation, Deficio is like whatever.
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On June 04 2015 04:41 Ansibled wrote:
What exactly did Deficio do?
he got a job offer
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his statement really clouds the issue of if this should have been a big deal
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On June 04 2015 04:41 Ansibled wrote:
What exactly did Deficio do?
From what I can tell, he chatted with players (and possibly Dentist) as a friend about potential career options/pro scene insider information. Dentist then hung him out to dry by implying to CW that Deficio was feeding him info about the SK game, which led to Rito investigating and uncovering all the other stuff regarding his discussing of information with pros (and I guess possibly him getting a job offer from CW/another org? That part is not clear).
Deficio didn't do anything wrong per se, but him talking about that stuff with pros was unprofessional, especially since he's in a very public position at Riot, which is probably why they're coming down so hard on him. However, he admitted fault, cooperated with the investigation, and posted a very professional apology, so I'm pretty sure he's not in any serious trouble/his job isn't in jeopardy.
I lost a lot of respect for Dentist today though. Especially when he only cooperated with the investigation after being confronted with evidence and basically forced to admit fault.
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of course his job isn't in jeopardy Riot specifically tailored his punishment to force him to keep casting for them.
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On June 04 2015 04:51 Slusher wrote:
of course his job isn't in jeopardy Riot specifically tailored his punishment to force him to keep casting for them.
Do you really think if he wanted to go work for CW, Riot could stop him?
Pretty sure that punishment wouldn't stand up in an EU court if he wanted to force the issue.
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From what I understand - shared with players that he might become the CW manager/owner in the future and "perhaps we could make a new team then? You, the other pro, that up-and-comer..." or somethng like that. This is actually the part I understand, Riot is pretty clear about wanting to maintain the image of a company whose members are proffessional and rule-abiding. What I don't understand is Riot telling Dentist how to coach - I'm not saying whether I like his methods or not, I just hate that Riot says gets to say what's right or wrong and how can you talk to your own players. Also, how the fuck does taking Deficio from broadcast hurt him more than viewers (and Riot itself)?
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On June 04 2015 04:53 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 04:51 Slusher wrote:
of course his job isn't in jeopardy Riot specifically tailored his punishment to force him to keep casting for them. Do you really think if he wanted to go work for CW, Riot could stop him? Pretty sure that punishment wouldn't stand up in an EU court if he wanted to force the issue.
I imagine they could ban CW from the LCS, but that seems pretty unlikely.
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Riot banning him for the entirety of 2016, too. Can't get any shadier than this and I might be mistaken but they don't actually say what rules he broke so again they make up stuff as it pleases them.
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On June 04 2015 04:54 AlterKot wrote:
From what I understand - shared with players that he might become the CW manager/owner in the future and "perhaps we could make a new team then? You, the other pro, that up-and-comer..." or somethng like that. This is actually the part I understand, Riot is pretty clear about wanting to maintain the image of a company whose members are proffessional and rule-abiding. What I don't understand is Riot telling Dentist how to coach - I'm not saying whether I like his methods or not, I just hate that Riot says gets to say what's right or wrong and how can you talk to your own players. Also, how the fuck does taking Deficio from broadcast hurt him more than viewers (and Riot itself)?
Riot isn't telling Dentist how to coach, they're telling him not to cheat and/or encourage cheating. By telling his players "Hey, I'm getting and using inside information about other teams" he's condoning that type of behavior and effectively encouraging his players to cheat. I'm honestly surprised he got off so lightly.
As for Deficio, Riot is thinking long term. In the short term temporarily losing a good caster hurts, but in the long term it's better for them to maintain the integrity of their eSport. Sufficient bad/frequent scandals will destroy their credibility and spectator interest.
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On June 04 2015 04:58 AsnSensation wrote:
Riot banning him for the entirety of 2016, too. Can't get any shadier than this and I might be mistaken but they don't actually say what rules he broke so again they make up stuff as it pleases them.
Read the reasoning. It's up to their discretion because it's their rules. Here's the key bit for Deficio, because it's clear what Dentist did.
Although it’s not unusual for Rioters to be approached with offers from LCS organizations, it’s important that the organization and Rioter let us know as soon as an offer is made to raise awareness around potential conflicts of interest. In this case, we believe that Deficio showed poor judgment in navigating this conflict of interest. Over the course of our investigation we found evidence indicating that Deficio had begun speaking with several active LCS players - contracted and free agents - about their future and the possibility of working with them on the Copenhagen Wolves. These conversations influenced - or had the potential to influence - player decisions on where they chose to play, and affected the competitive integrity of the LCS.
The gist is Rioters need to remain separate from the competitive scene, and Deficio didn't do so up to standards.
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On June 04 2015 04:54 AlterKot wrote:
Also, how the fuck does taking Deficio from broadcast hurt him more than viewers (and Riot itself)?
I think Riot doesn't do that to punish Deficio but to send the message that everyone has to play by the rules and everyone is judged equally. It will also allow the drama to cool off until Deficio returns in front of the camearas.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Well... so we're stuck with Quickshot for EU LCS? aw yiss..
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Because Riot produces the game, sponsors/runs the tournaments, provides production, provides talent, and provides the oversight / regulatory body, they have to be extra strict on everything or else it all falls apart, because if you run everything, there can't be any lack of transparency if you want to still seem like a legitimate organization.
That's the goal anyways.
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Baa?21242 Posts
I don't get it. Dentist did nothing wrong? Deficio did nothing wrong? Why are they being punished.
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