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On June 08 2015 12:06 kongoline wrote: wait so its really his gf ? i was convinced its xj9 hiding his identity cuz of bans on twitch/league, even playing the same champions ....
Come on, it's obviously him.
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On June 08 2015 12:06 kongoline wrote: wait so its really his gf ? i was convinced its xj9 hiding his identity cuz of bans on twitch/league, even playing the same champions .... Its him, he and his moderators in his twitch chat all deny it but its pretty obvious lol
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On June 08 2015 12:06 kongoline wrote: wait so its really his gf ? i was convinced its xj9 hiding his identity cuz of bans on twitch/league, even playing the same champions ....
My bad. Sarcasm conveys poorly on the Internet. Haha.
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On June 08 2015 11:13 Kinie wrote: So what's the tl;dr on Ryze? Is it a case of Riot fucking up hardcore and letting him get away with something he shouldn't be able to do? I know they buffed him this patch but I didn't think anything affected his W? Or is it because of his passive and ult getting its buffs that're allowing this stuff to happen?
On June 08 2015 11:25 Kinie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 11:16 Caiada wrote:On June 08 2015 11:13 Kinie wrote: So what's the tl;dr on Ryze? Is it a case of Riot fucking up hardcore and letting him get away with something he shouldn't be able to do? I know they buffed him this patch but I didn't think anything affected his W? Or is it because of his passive and ult getting its buffs that're allowing this stuff to happen? He could do this before, but only at 16. Being able to solo people before then gets him so far ahead he can then 1v2+. The potential was there pre-5.10, and he wasn't really 10% winrate worse than now, but the buffs were big. People also figured out what to level early. His early game went quickly from shit to godtier. So, people realized that now that Q isn't a point and click damage burst, they instead max the OTHER point and click damage burst, which just so happens to SNARE the target too? And oh, by the way, if you know what the fuck you're doing when you mash the keyboard they get perma-snared and the enemy has NOTHING they can do to stop it? If it was me, I'd just nerf it so that the W snare applies a buff to the enemy target that prevents them from getting snared by Ryze W for 6/5/4/3/2 seconds.
Basically. The problem with pre-Buff Ryze was he was one of the worst laners in the game. Now he is a terrible laner when he isn't close to activating passive, but then amazing when he can activate it at will. Basically, think of him as a kind of AP Gnar in that way. If you nerf his W like that you might balance him temporarily, but you still have a champion with a kit that is terrible for laning (unless its ridiculously overtuned like it is now). He needs better waveclear to have a sustainable kit longterm, or they should make his passive not be inactive/active (Gnar Style) because its just bad game design.
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Current Ryze with waveclear and something like his old passive would be the most boring champ in the game.
He should/probably will be balanced around Q. Right now Q is irrelevant because you just burn it for CDs, hope it hits, and if it doesn't, too bad, WE killed them anyway. If it was dependent on chaining Qs, you've actually got to hit shit, and now Ryze is balanced.
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On June 08 2015 14:08 Caiada wrote: Current Ryze with waveclear and something like his old passive would be the most boring champ in the game.
He should/probably will be balanced around Q. Right now Q is irrelevant because you just burn it for CDs, hope it hits, and if it doesn't, too bad, WE killed them anyway. If it was dependent on chaining Qs, you've actually got to hit shit, and now Ryze is balanced.
But Q is a shitty move. It cant be used for trading, or waveclear, or harass, or poke. Basically its good for contesting neutral objectives only. Basically, your Ryze is a Mundo that uses mana and has a significant amount of his power dependent on the # of orbs he has.
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I thought cleavers were amazing for csing.
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Cleaver is now amazing for CSing. It refunds the full amount of it kills a creep!
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On June 08 2015 14:49 Ketara wrote: I thought cleavers were amazing for csing.
They are, but are also basically free now, and Dr. Mundo is basically the type of champion that Riot seems to be trying to move away from. I wouldn't mind Ryze as one of those "if I'm not 30 CS behind I'm ahead" champions, but I doubt that would be allowed for very long. Also, mid-lategame Mundo is a pretty good splitpusher with his W/R, better poker because of Q's % HP, and can chase well with Q. It just seems like that proposal is a super-extreme AP Mundo. Plus the orb management, which I think is bad based on what we have seen with Gnar (to a lesser extent, Rengar).
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The orb thing is bad but those comparisons confuse the issue
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I don't know why its confusing the issue. It seems they don't want to give him waveclear, they took away his lane bully potential intentionally(and gave it back unintentionally, and will obviously be removing that). He only has 1 single target CC, which is really maximized in that lane bully scenario. I also doubt (nor want) they are giving Ryze a dash. So what kind of levers are you left with besides teamfight-oriented tankiness and damage?
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On June 08 2015 12:25 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2015 12:06 kongoline wrote: wait so its really his gf ? i was convinced its xj9 hiding his identity cuz of bans on twitch/league, even playing the same champions .... Come on, it's obviously him. i never understood how he gets so much farm and carries so hard from jungle
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I beat ryze as top upgot, seems to work pretty well both in harass situations and all in situations because the suppression takes a lot of the time of the passive active and the damage reduction passive, despite the fact that I'm not a good urgot and I fed the rest of the game after laning phase.
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Pretty sure Vladimir etc. beat Ryze as well for similar reasons. The pool takes so much time off his passive and ult and his sustain is super powerful.
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is it just me or does volibear get super fed and unkillable every single game he's in in solo queue?
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also im trying to play ekko, how the fuck do you get past laning phase not with a massive deficit in cs? his laning seems to be really bad imo.
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On June 08 2015 20:06 IMoperator wrote: also im trying to play ekko, how the fuck do you get past laning phase not with a massive deficit in cs? his laning seems to be really bad imo.
Stoo trying to srun with W cuz just the shield wins you trades. Use E to dodge spells then go hard.
Same as fizz really. Dodge, attack, gtfo.
You get to dodge a spell, port to them with a shield, proc your passive with the run fast and the Q slow and dip til your skills back on cd having won the trade handily. All skill shot mages should get bodied by him. You just can't be aggressive against them in lane till you're ahead.
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Yeah I have no idea what you're doing specifically but most Ekkos I've seen lose laning phase hard were liberally using W.
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So i'm watching the chinese female LOL league...
cs @ 10 minutes mid morg: 34 top laners: 42 and 56 adc's: 54 and 63
edit: a caitlyn with bf sword just missed 4 out of 6 minions under tower o.0
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On June 09 2015 00:57 killerdog wrote: So i'm watching the chinese female LOL league...
cs @ 10 minutes mid morg: 34 top laners: 42 and 56 adc's: 54 and 63
edit: a caitlyn with bf sword just missed 4 out of 6 minions under tower o.0 How qt are they though?
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