EPT[Patch 5.10] Ekko General Discussion - Page 36
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kongoline
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 08 2015 01:11 kongoline wrote: ^not everybody played protoss in broodwar :D I didn't either. Was just a bad Zerg player. (But your right, 1m2m3a4a1a2a prolly more realistic) LOL. I guess I dont really mash the keyboard, more rhythmically hit qwer. But still, I dont think its particularly difficult. All you have to do is hit W first, then cycle qweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqwe. No thought involved, just mashing. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Man, you guys have no idea how hard it was to storm properly as Protoss. That and building carriers, good skill2have. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 08 2015 01:18 ticklishmusic wrote: It's more like qw-qeqw-qeqw-etc., but it's pretty idiot proof far as combos go Man, you guys have no idea how hard it was to storm properly as Protoss. That and building carriers, good skill2have. Thats what I'm saying though, just by the nature of the CDs if you just mash qwe-qwe you will always end up going w-qeq-w-qeq-w-qeq-w. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Maybe thats where things get easy for me, I run CDR Blues on Ryze, because none of the items I want have it (RoA, boots, Seraphs, VoidStaff, Zhonya, Abyssal. /shrug It might be smart of me to just replace the CDR w/ AP or something, cuz realistically doesn't really change the damage output at all, in fact I probably do less damage. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 08 2015 01:23 ticklishmusic wrote: I mean there's a slight pause between hitting w and q the first time because otherwise you don't get the chain I don't see how this makes the slightest bit of sense. Can you explain the logic behind this? Isn't the delay just in a different place - What does that matter? | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On June 07 2015 22:27 Shikyo wrote: Four orbs? You need 1 orb to start the full combo at lvl 6. You are going to play around Ryze having at least 1 orb? Good luck farming. u can start dumpstering pre 6 | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Err, I mean XJ9's girlfriend. WHY IS SHE SO GOOD?! | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On June 08 2015 11:13 Kinie wrote: So what's the tl;dr on Ryze? Is it a case of Riot fucking up hardcore and letting him get away with something he shouldn't be able to do? I know they buffed him this patch but I didn't think anything affected his W? Or is it because of his passive and ult getting its buffs that're allowing this stuff to happen? He could do this before, but only at 16. Being able to solo people before then gets him so far ahead he can then 1v2+. The potential was there pre-5.10, and he wasn't really 10% winrate worse than now, but the buffs were big. People also figured out what to level early. His early game went quickly from shit to godtier. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On June 08 2015 11:16 Caiada wrote: He could do this before, but only at 16. Being able to solo people before then gets him so far ahead he can then 1v2+. The potential was there pre-5.10, and he wasn't really 10% winrate worse than now, but the buffs were big. People also figured out what to level early. His early game went quickly from shit to godtier. So, people realized that now that Q isn't a point and click damage burst, they instead max the OTHER point and click damage burst, which just so happens to SNARE the target too? And oh, by the way, if you know what the fuck you're doing when you mash the keyboard they get perma-snared and the enemy has NOTHING they can do to stop it? If it was me, I'd just nerf it so that the W snare applies a buff to the enemy target that prevents them from getting snared by Ryze W for 6/5/4/3/2 seconds. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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FinestHour
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I also faced a Ryze who maxed R > E > Q > W today, around level 10 when I had Cowl+Catalyst+dring and he had catalyst+ a late tear, I waited for 4 stacks on my passive and his just expired, W to him to start a fight knowing I'll at least use my passive twice before he triggers his, plus I activate my ult to reduce damage some more. When I walk away after my ult runs out and a last Q, I end up around 110 HP, he's at 75. Imagine if I wasn't ahead on items or he had more stacks on his passive or he skilled properly or I missed an auto to trigger my passive (I think I triggered it 3 or 4 times, so that's 20% damage reduction + 18~24% max HP healing), I'd have gotten wrecked. Laning's also super annoying because his mana costs early on are super low, so even if he looks like he only has 100 mana he can still deal 200~300 damage between autos and spells if you try to last hit a minion. Perma-zoned from the first time he gets to E me near my minion wave and I take ~200 damage from EQ. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
On June 08 2015 10:41 Sufficiency wrote: OK I never watched XJ9 playing before, but I am very impressed spending 15 minutes watching him. Err, I mean XJ9's girlfriend. WHY IS SHE SO GOOD?! just like old xj9, carrying 1vs9 | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On June 08 2015 11:34 FinestHour wrote: all it took was one pro in one game to release the floodgate thats never happened before no ones ever done that before in the history of video gaemz ryze was perma ban in korean high soloQ before huni played him in lcs | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 08 2015 10:41 Sufficiency wrote: OK I never watched XJ9 playing before, but I am very impressed spending 15 minutes watching him. Err, I mean XJ9's girlfriend. WHY IS SHE SO GOOD?! She's mostly good because she stopped playing LeeSin, tbh. | ||
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kongoline
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