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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#701
^not everybody played protoss in broodwar :D
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 16:18:09
June 07 2015 16:12 GMT
#702
On June 08 2015 01:11 kongoline wrote:
^not everybody played protoss in broodwar :D


I didn't either. Was just a bad Zerg player. (But your right, 1m2m3a4a1a2a prolly more realistic)

LOL.

I guess I dont really mash the keyboard, more rhythmically hit qwer. But still, I dont think its particularly difficult. All you have to do is hit W first, then cycle qweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqweqwe.

No thought involved, just mashing.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 16:19:49
June 07 2015 16:18 GMT
#703
It's more like qw-qeqw-qeqw-etc., but it's pretty idiot proof far as combos go

Man, you guys have no idea how hard it was to storm properly as Protoss. That and building carriers, good skill2have.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 07 2015 16:20 GMT
#704
On June 08 2015 01:18 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's more like qw-qeqw-qeqw-etc., but it's pretty idiot proof far as combos go

Man, you guys have no idea how hard it was to storm properly as Protoss. That and building carriers, good skill2have.


Thats what I'm saying though, just by the nature of the CDs if you just mash qwe-qwe you will always end up going w-qeq-w-qeq-w-qeq-w.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 07 2015 16:23 GMT
#705
I mean there's a slight pause between hitting w and q the first time because otherwise you don't get the chain
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 16:31:41
June 07 2015 16:31 GMT
#706
Do you run any CDR? I dont pause at all, just roll over things.

Maybe thats where things get easy for me, I run CDR Blues on Ryze, because none of the items I want have it (RoA, boots, Seraphs, VoidStaff, Zhonya, Abyssal.

/shrug

It might be smart of me to just replace the CDR w/ AP or something, cuz realistically doesn't really change the damage output at all, in fact I probably do less damage.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#707
On June 08 2015 01:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
I mean there's a slight pause between hitting w and q the first time because otherwise you don't get the chain

I don't see how this makes the slightest bit of sense. Can you explain the logic behind this? Isn't the delay just in a different place - What does that matter?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 08 2015 00:12 GMT
#708
On June 07 2015 22:27 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 11:46 FinestHour wrote:
i mean
i just dumpstered a vlad when i had no idea what ryze did apart from looking at the reddit video once
people just need to not be greedy little bitches and back off when he has four orbs around him wewo COUNTERPLAY

Four orbs?

You need 1 orb to start the full combo at lvl 6. You are going to play around Ryze having at least 1 orb? Good luck farming.


u can start dumpstering pre 6
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 08 2015 01:41 GMT
#709
OK I never watched XJ9 playing before, but I am very impressed spending 15 minutes watching him.

Err, I mean XJ9's girlfriend. WHY IS SHE SO GOOD?!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
June 08 2015 01:44 GMT
#710
Well hopefully ryze will just be perm banned till being nerfed back into the ground where he belongs.
Moar banelings less qq
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 08 2015 02:13 GMT
#711
So what's the tl;dr on Ryze? Is it a case of Riot fucking up hardcore and letting him get away with something he shouldn't be able to do? I know they buffed him this patch but I didn't think anything affected his W? Or is it because of his passive and ult getting its buffs that're allowing this stuff to happen?
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 02:20:20
June 08 2015 02:16 GMT
#712
On June 08 2015 11:13 Kinie wrote:
So what's the tl;dr on Ryze? Is it a case of Riot fucking up hardcore and letting him get away with something he shouldn't be able to do? I know they buffed him this patch but I didn't think anything affected his W? Or is it because of his passive and ult getting its buffs that're allowing this stuff to happen?


He could do this before, but only at 16.

Being able to solo people before then gets him so far ahead he can then 1v2+. The potential was there pre-5.10, and he wasn't really 10% winrate worse than now, but the buffs were big. People also figured out what to level early. His early game went quickly from shit to godtier.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 08 2015 02:25 GMT
#713
On June 08 2015 11:16 Caiada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 11:13 Kinie wrote:
So what's the tl;dr on Ryze? Is it a case of Riot fucking up hardcore and letting him get away with something he shouldn't be able to do? I know they buffed him this patch but I didn't think anything affected his W? Or is it because of his passive and ult getting its buffs that're allowing this stuff to happen?


He could do this before, but only at 16.

Being able to solo people before then gets him so far ahead he can then 1v2+. The potential was there pre-5.10, and he wasn't really 10% winrate worse than now, but the buffs were big. People also figured out what to level early. His early game went quickly from shit to godtier.


So, people realized that now that Q isn't a point and click damage burst, they instead max the OTHER point and click damage burst, which just so happens to SNARE the target too? And oh, by the way, if you know what the fuck you're doing when you mash the keyboard they get perma-snared and the enemy has NOTHING they can do to stop it?

If it was me, I'd just nerf it so that the W snare applies a buff to the enemy target that prevents them from getting snared by Ryze W for 6/5/4/3/2 seconds.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 08 2015 02:26 GMT
#714
Yeah essentially they moved his powerspike from 16 down to 6. At 6 there's very few laners he can't just straight up kill with even the most modest of leads. The problem with him is really his W. If you got 50% reduced root time for each subsequent root on the same target in x seconds time window he'd be fine I think.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 08 2015 02:34 GMT
#715
all it took was one pro in one game to release the floodgate thats never happened before no ones ever done that before in the history of video gaemz
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 02:39:43
June 08 2015 02:37 GMT
#716
I remember a Ryze 100-0ing me in two rotations (playing Maokai, he hit 6 first as I came back from buying, I walk in lane ready to hit minions and he combo kills me in around 4 seconds; he didn't even do it properly because he only snared me twice).
I also faced a Ryze who maxed R > E > Q > W today, around level 10 when I had Cowl+Catalyst+dring and he had catalyst+ a late tear, I waited for 4 stacks on my passive and his just expired, W to him to start a fight knowing I'll at least use my passive twice before he triggers his, plus I activate my ult to reduce damage some more.

When I walk away after my ult runs out and a last Q, I end up around 110 HP, he's at 75.
Imagine if I wasn't ahead on items or he had more stacks on his passive or he skilled properly or I missed an auto to trigger my passive (I think I triggered it 3 or 4 times, so that's 20% damage reduction + 18~24% max HP healing), I'd have gotten wrecked.

Laning's also super annoying because his mana costs early on are super low, so even if he looks like he only has 100 mana he can still deal 200~300 damage between autos and spells if you try to last hit a minion. Perma-zoned from the first time he gets to E me near my minion wave and I take ~200 damage from EQ.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
June 08 2015 02:44 GMT
#717
On June 08 2015 10:41 Sufficiency wrote:
OK I never watched XJ9 playing before, but I am very impressed spending 15 minutes watching him.

Err, I mean XJ9's girlfriend. WHY IS SHE SO GOOD?!


just like old xj9, carrying 1vs9
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 08 2015 03:00 GMT
#718
On June 08 2015 11:34 FinestHour wrote:
all it took was one pro in one game to release the floodgate thats never happened before no ones ever done that before in the history of video gaemz

ryze was perma ban in korean high soloQ before huni played him in lcs
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 08 2015 03:01 GMT
#719
On June 08 2015 10:41 Sufficiency wrote:
OK I never watched XJ9 playing before, but I am very impressed spending 15 minutes watching him.

Err, I mean XJ9's girlfriend. WHY IS SHE SO GOOD?!


She's mostly good because she stopped playing LeeSin, tbh.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 03:07:06
June 08 2015 03:06 GMT
#720
wait so its really his gf ? i was convinced its xj9 hiding his identity cuz of bans on twitch/league, even playing the same champions ....
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