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#thingssonsofbillionairesdo
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is there a restriction on duo queue between people who are and aren't placed?
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On June 05 2015 04:22 Frolossus wrote:
is there a restriction on duo queue between people who are and aren't placed?
afaik it's only mmr based.
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On June 04 2015 22:22 loSleb wrote:
Everyone who builds coin, not playing Soraka, gives me cancer.
and i always go boots on soraka lel
nekos leona made my eyes bleed in go4lol face of the mountian is literally the best or 2nd best item in the game and go goes for one of the worst
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Im pretty sure coin is optimal on janna, spelltheif is really crappy on her.
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On June 05 2015 04:55 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 22:22 loSleb wrote:
Everyone who builds coin, not playing Soraka, gives me cancer. and i always go boots on soraka lel nekos leona made my eyes bleed in go4lol face of the mountian is literally the best or 2nd best item in the game and go goes for one of the worst
Boots on Soraka is fucking amazing.
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The glorious storm's fury isn't a wimpy coin support. All hail Captain's boots combat Janna.
EDIT: Just how insanely good do you have to do as adc to get a S/S+ rating? Finally had a game where I did pretty good as adc: 7/0 with 186 cs into 20m surrender win and only got A- .....
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Welp that goes the last 'weakness' of deft. His laning phase was good, now it should be godly if this works.
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Go 70/0 with 1860cs in a 200 minute game.
I get S rating with supports the easiest if I play like a pussy and don't die. I get them most on junglers if I constantly gank and just get kills/assists/objectives. Top I have yet to get an S because I just play lazy and tp when I'm needed, and I don't play mid and adc enough to know.
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I think stuff like kill participation and warding is taken into account. I ended up with S- as Maokai despite a 0-3-1 or 0-4-1 start vs Ryze, because I ended up sacrifying 20+ cs to tp bot, participate in 3 kills and a dragon, before moving back up.
Also remember that you're not evaluated on absolutes, but relative to other people who played that champion.
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or just play a low winrate champ like jax in a low kda position like top lane and get S+ with like 17/6 or something lol
warding and counter warding is definitely taken into account for support because ive had plenty of perfect soraka games with like S or S- with a disgusting kda and kill partip %
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Yeah. It feels really easy to get S/S+ as support. On mid/adc it feel rediculously hard, never gotten even a flat A on those roles, gotten S/S+ on top/jungle and support multiple times.
Might be because I play carries extremely selfish. Heh.
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Think I've had S several times as Viktor, maybe S+ not sure. But I upgrade my yellow trinket as soon as I hit 9 (unless I can finish a big item at that point) and if we're prepping drake and lack a pink I'll buy it myself. Also Viktor lolfarming when you aren't against a dick match-up.
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I haven't had issues getting an S+/S/S- rating on an ADC. CSing is my weakest point so maybe it might be damage done that's a little low that hurts the grading?
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On June 05 2015 02:18 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 02:17 Goumindong wrote:On June 04 2015 20:28 IMoperator wrote:On June 04 2015 18:44 JimmiC wrote:
Maybe u can't 1v5 but ADCs still carry a ton of games. saying anything else is pretty much qqing. yeah but there's no denying that adc is the most team-reliant role. it's a lot easier to help your team and carry games by getting fed as mid/top/jungle than it is as adc. even if you're fed you still need your team to peel for you and shit Maybe. Maybe the solution to ADC is to stop trying to make big plays. Or play ADC that are capable of making the plays.
By win rate that seems to be Ashe, Jinx, Sivir, Vayne(then MF/Draven). Only one of which is seen as a "playmaking ADC".
Ashe and Sivir can playmake with engages, but that isn't typically what people refer to when they say playmanking. And vayne is probably so high in win rate not because of playmaking but because games are going a lot longer with tier 2 shields and the tank preference makes tank busters good.
On June 04 2015 14:15 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 13:57 RagequitBM wrote:
Was wondering how other ADC mains have been doing in solo queue lately. Ever since cinderhulk my winrate plummeted from around 80% to 40%. Feels like I have zero impact in every game that I fail to go 6 - 0 in lane. Is this just me being inconsistent? Don't be afraid to force BotRK on a non-ideal ADC. Your champions theoretical peak doesn't mean shit when it can't throw out enough damage.
I am not sure this is the right advise.
IE, LW, PD, BotRK does do more damage than BT, but i think that the survivability is better with BT, and once you have BT you're wasting a lot on the lifesteal portion of BotRK compared to more crit with a second PD or more survivability with scimitar.
I think that the biggest issues with builds are
1) Not deciding on a specific timing and playing to that timing.
2) Delaying attack speed too long (the level scaling changes did a lot to move idea AS timing a lot earlier) [additionally getting shiv instead of PD]
3) over-valuing IE. We saw in the Ashe DPS example that BT-Pick-PD is about the same if not higher DPS than IE->Zeal. And while crit itself has a lower effect on DPS for Ashe than other AD's its not so much to change the calculus. I am guessing that the survivability of BT or the damage and kite on PD might mean the itemization order is pretty wrong on almost everyone.
On June 05 2015 05:23 sob3k wrote:
Im pretty sure coin is optimal on janna, spelltheif is really crappy on her.
Like everyone else. Coin is great in a losing matchup. It allows you to play a bit more forward and eat damage for your ADC which you otherwise would not be able to do and still maintain high gold income. Its "total sustain lane fight power" is unmatched by the other support items.
Its weakness is in immediate power, knife can allow you to proc it early a few times and use the HP advantage to keep the other support/AD out of lane.
But neither is "optimal" on janna. It depends on what the lane is like.
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isn't it easier to get s+ in premade because of the bonus points?
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EPT
