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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 04 2015 07:30 GMT
#561
On June 04 2015 14:05 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 13:50 Nos- wrote:
On June 04 2015 13:24 krndandaman wrote:
#1 tip I've gotten was just focus on dying less
worked wonders for me. it's simple but good. I started to focus a lot more on good ward timing, timing flashes so I know when I can do shit and when they can all-in me, only picking fights I know for sure I can win, etc.


it's possible to be too careful though


of course, but it's good advice in the lower levels imo, because chances are you're erring on the side of playing too recklessly instead of playing too safe. the repercussions of playing too safe are also much smaller than playing too recklessly.


I find it to be the exact opposite especially on melee, so I think it's a case by case basis.
Carrilord has arrived.
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
June 04 2015 07:41 GMT
#562
Also depends on your role. As a toplaner, dying is often half your job (the other being not feeding in lane).
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
June 04 2015 07:54 GMT
#563
On June 04 2015 10:57 Zdrastochye wrote:
Here's a pro tip, don't take advice from anyone who isn't a pro. They're really really bad.

Most pros are also rather bad though. You should never follow their advice blindly either.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 04 2015 09:17 GMT
#564
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 04 2015 09:29 GMT
#565
On June 04 2015 13:57 RagequitBM wrote:
Was wondering how other ADC mains have been doing in solo queue lately. Ever since cinderhulk my winrate plummeted from around 80% to 40%. Feels like I have zero impact in every game that I fail to go 6 - 0 in lane. Is this just me being inconsistent?

adc sucks in solo queue unless you duo with a support and completely dominate your lane. tanks are way too good and when people dont peel for you it's just an awful meta for adc's.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
June 04 2015 09:34 GMT
#566
I wanna play a coin-based support so so badly... but are there other good champs besides Janna where it's optimal? Except Soraka. -.-
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 04 2015 09:44 GMT
#567
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loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
June 04 2015 09:51 GMT
#568
I would really like to be able to transfer IP from my main to my smurf.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 04 2015 10:11 GMT
#569
On June 04 2015 16:41 Kaethis wrote:
Also depends on your role. As a toplaner, dying is often half your job (the other being not feeding in lane).

I have heard this said a lot, but it is exceedingly rare that dying is your job. What krndandaman is saying is correct, focusing on dying less is one of the best things to focus on (regardless of role) to climb soloQ ranks.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 10:23:29
June 04 2015 10:21 GMT
#570
On June 04 2015 18:34 Celial wrote:
I wanna play a coin-based support so so badly... but are there other good champs besides Janna where it's optimal? Except Soraka. -.-

On most utility supports it's good to switch into Coin->Talisman once lane is over, you wont get that many procs off and Talisman is the best support item build out of your gold generator. Starting Coin leaves you incredible weak, and Soraka is honestly the only champion I can see it work on - on anyone else you're making it hard for your adc safely as the enemy simply will be stronger than you. When you can get away with a Coin start, it's because you're against a lane that's weak early, which you ironically want the offensive stats even moreso against.

It can sorta work on Bard if your adc is ok with you leaving him alone often (you need to rush into mobis and Medallion in this case), Frostfang is still super strong on him since a meep auto triggers 2 stacks which is pretty brutal early.

Soraka is honestly the only support I'd start Coin on, even after the buff. Maybe if you look up your opponents on op.gg or whatever and see both of them are not maining botlane you can do it, but then it'd be better to just fuck 'em up with the superior stats you get from Relic/Frostfang.

On June 04 2015 18:51 loSleb wrote:
I would really like to be able to transfer IP from my main to my smurf.

I just wish you could start level 30 on different regions if you only got a level 30 account on another, I dont care about runes/champions on your main. Just pls let me skip the boring grind Rito, ruining games before you get unto Smurf Island is boring and winning/losing games solely on having more/higher smurfs is even worse.

On June 04 2015 19:11 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 16:41 Kaethis wrote:
Also depends on your role. As a toplaner, dying is often half your job (the other being not feeding in lane).

I have heard this said a lot, but it is exceedingly rare that dying is your job. What krndandaman is saying is correct, focusing on dying less is one of the best things to focus on (regardless of role) to climb soloQ ranks.

All new players should have Mejai/Sword as suggested item so they'd learn early to play safe and take advantage of early leads. ^^
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 11:34:38
June 04 2015 11:28 GMT
#571
On June 04 2015 18:44 JimmiC wrote:
Maybe u can't 1v5 but ADCs still carry a ton of games. saying anything else is pretty much qqing.

yeah but there's no denying that adc is the most team-reliant role. it's a lot easier to help your team and carry games by getting fed as mid/top/jungle than it is as adc. even if you're fed you still need your team to peel for you and shit
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 04 2015 12:51 GMT
#572
On June 04 2015 18:34 Celial wrote:
I wanna play a coin-based support so so badly... but are there other good champs besides Janna where it's optimal? Except Soraka. -.-

I build it on Thresh, Naut, Ali and Leona, much to disdain of my ADC but satisfaction of myself.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
June 04 2015 13:18 GMT
#573
On June 04 2015 21:51 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 18:34 Celial wrote:
I wanna play a coin-based support so so badly... but are there other good champs besides Janna where it's optimal? Except Soraka. -.-

I build it on Thresh, Naut, Ali and Leona, much to disdain of my ADC but satisfaction of myself.

That coin on Leo in the go4lol gave me cancer.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 04 2015 13:21 GMT
#574
you're cancer
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
June 04 2015 13:22 GMT
#575
Everyone who builds coin, not playing Soraka, gives me cancer.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
June 04 2015 13:29 GMT
#576
On June 04 2015 22:21 AlterKot wrote:
you're cancer

Only parts of me :p
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 16:09:53
June 04 2015 16:09 GMT
#577
I can see people go coin instead of spellthief's, but coin instead of relic shield rarely makes sense to me.

Maybe with Garen, Olaf and a nonmobile adc to rush Talisman. But also then only if you have weak initiation as the support. So perhaps as Thresh or Blitzcrank in a Garen, Olaf, random midlaner, Jinx team.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 04 2015 17:17 GMT
#578
On June 04 2015 20:28 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 18:44 JimmiC wrote:
Maybe u can't 1v5 but ADCs still carry a ton of games. saying anything else is pretty much qqing.

yeah but there's no denying that adc is the most team-reliant role. it's a lot easier to help your team and carry games by getting fed as mid/top/jungle than it is as adc. even if you're fed you still need your team to peel for you and shit

Maybe. Maybe the solution to ADC is to stop trying to make big plays.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
June 04 2015 17:18 GMT
#579
On June 05 2015 02:17 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 20:28 IMoperator wrote:
On June 04 2015 18:44 JimmiC wrote:
Maybe u can't 1v5 but ADCs still carry a ton of games. saying anything else is pretty much qqing.

yeah but there's no denying that adc is the most team-reliant role. it's a lot easier to help your team and carry games by getting fed as mid/top/jungle than it is as adc. even if you're fed you still need your team to peel for you and shit

Maybe. Maybe the solution to ADC is to stop trying to make big plays.

Or play ADC that are capable of making the plays.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 04 2015 18:27 GMT
#580
EDG bought a Korean support to duo with Deft in soloque. They duo while Meiko and translator are seating next to them. Their communication will be translated to Meiko. This help Meiko to understand Deft's thought process and enhance communication.

fucking hell.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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