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The land of freedom23126 Posts
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I though this was a joke l o l.
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that is one ugly roster. say hello to 3rd-5th place
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I'm not even sure what to say.... other than this lineup isn't going to win NA. Hard to say who's going to take the #2 spot with TSM at #1. I'd give C9 a season or so before they get used to not having Hai's shotcalling to pull them out of sticky situations.
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Baa?21244 Posts
On May 14 2015 11:30 VayneAuthority wrote: that is one ugly roster. say hello to 3rd-5th place
More like third to last place lol.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
On May 14 2015 11:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 11:30 VayneAuthority wrote: that is one ugly roster. say hello to 3rd-5th place More like third to last place lol.
That means they still stay in LCS. I'm not sure I want that with this roster.
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Could be really interesting. Might work, might fail, but I think they needed to try something different if they wanted a different result.
Good luck to them!
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Huehuehue, I have a bit of faith in Pobelter. Let's see if he can produce something good in first 2 weeks.
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I actually don't think this roster is abysmal, but I don't think that they'll be able to challenge TSM/C9/Liquid/Impulse for the top 4 spots. There's simply too much talent in NA right now.
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Pobelter is actually good. He didn't have good teams.
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Baa?21244 Posts
On May 14 2015 13:10 saddaromma wrote: Pobelter is actually good. He didn't have good teams.
IDK I think that's just an excuse. How many supposedly good players languishing in "LCS Elo hell" actually ended up doing well when they got a "good team"? A good player should look good no matter where he's at (see: Spirit struggling on WE). Pobelter is just a mediocre solo queue talent, he's not some struggler being weighed down by his team. If you look bad like Pobelter, you're just bad, it's not your team's fault.
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Why? Who is Huhi? Where is the AD sub?
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On May 14 2015 13:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 13:10 saddaromma wrote: Pobelter is actually good. He didn't have good teams. IDK I think that's just an excuse. How many supposedly good players languishing in "LCS Elo hell" actually ended up doing well when they got a "good team"? A good player should look good no matter where he's at (see: Spirit struggling on WE). Pobelter is just a mediocre solo queue talent, he's not some struggler being weighed down by his team. If you look bad like Pobelter, you're just bad, it's not your team's fault. Quas.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Skipped to the section on the current season but it's basically what I expected.
still hard to be sure whats true the tone is self serving as fuck
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On May 14 2015 14:17 Slusher wrote: Skipped to the section on the current season but it's basically what I expected.
still hard to be sure whats true the tone is self serving as fuck true, still interesting to see his perspective.
Also how he agrees with shit fans were saying- like how all their top laners felt like shit/quit at the end because the bot lane focus was so high (season 4) etc.
Lemon did most of the picks and bans and we’d just discuss the team. The biggest difference that I noticed was that Dexter was a follower whereas Meteos was a leader. He’d do or tell people what he wanted in the early game. He had a plan of how to play the game and that’s something that literally 99.9% in NA doesn’t do and the BIGGEST REASON WHY WE ARE TERRIBLE AS A REGION. He figured out win conditions and he actually got mad at me for telling him one time to tell him where to gank or ward. On CLG the word shotcaller means: you tell people exactly how to play the game (move here tp here cursor here aim ur skill here ward here gank here). On C9 the word shotcaller means: you get people to do the more team oriented stuff like dragon/baron control/rotations blahblah. In other words CLG shotcalling is like babysitting. C9 wasn’t.
was particularly interesting. Again a lot of it can be seen by us as spectators/fans- that C9's biggest advantages were their map rotations/shotcalling etc, just interesting to see that the opinion is reflected by pros, and also that apparently CLG at least still doesn't have that bit down? lol
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On May 14 2015 14:12 saddaromma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 13:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 14 2015 13:10 saddaromma wrote: Pobelter is actually good. He didn't have good teams. IDK I think that's just an excuse. How many supposedly good players languishing in "LCS Elo hell" actually ended up doing well when they got a "good team"? A good player should look good no matter where he's at (see: Spirit struggling on WE). Pobelter is just a mediocre solo queue talent, he's not some struggler being weighed down by his team. If you look bad like Pobelter, you're just bad, it's not your team's fault. Quas.
It's a bit misty, but I remember Quas being a beast back when he was on GGLA. Would have got them an LCS gig if he didn't get picked up by Curse.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
GGLA probably would have made LCS, hard to judge since they lost otter and quas relatively quickly. That being said quas was definitely noted for his performances on the struggling NWE where oh god that team sucked but he still shined.
Also nien backs his boy link
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United States47024 Posts
On May 14 2015 13:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 13:10 saddaromma wrote: Pobelter is actually good. He didn't have good teams. IDK I think that's just an excuse. How many supposedly good players languishing in "LCS Elo hell" actually ended up doing well when they got a "good team"? A good player should look good no matter where he's at (see: Spirit struggling on WE). Pobelter is just a mediocre solo queue talent, he's not some struggler being weighed down by his team. If you look bad like Pobelter, you're just bad, it's not your team's fault. People have also literally called Pobelter "the next big thing" since season 1, lol.
You don't stay "the next big thing" for 4+ seasons and not win something if you're actually good.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Finished reading link's letter, putting literally everyone on blast. Especially doublelift, the word trust came up so often I think it no longer has any meaning to me.
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