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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 14 2015 09:26 GMT
#41
On May 14 2015 18:15 Ansibled wrote:


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I wish they could not shoutout everyone in the end, makes my dreams of burning whole roster down sad.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 14 2015 09:32 GMT
#42
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
May 14 2015 09:36 GMT
#43
Link clearly has some real problems taking responsibility for his issues. How he called his team out for destroying Dexter emotionally then brushes over the role he had (televised on ctc) was pretty telling. As much as I hate using the word, he comes across as quite immature emotionally.

Doublelift's response is self-reflective and pragmatic in contrast.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 14 2015 09:39 GMT
#44
for a second I thought that Scarra was still CLG coach and Double's bit about no one helping him was that much better because he'd be throwing his current coach under the bus.

Still good reading though, that bit about Link blame deflecting in the same letter he calls blame deflecting the worst thing one can do is spot on.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 09:48:14
May 14 2015 09:47 GMT
#45
On May 14 2015 18:36 Amarok wrote:
Link clearly has some real problems taking responsibility for his issues. How he called his team out for destroying Dexter emotionally then brushes over the role he had (televised on ctc) was pretty telling. As much as I hate using the word, he comes across as quite immature emotionally.

Doublelift's response is self-reflective and pragmatic in contrast.


http://www.reddit.com/r/ElementsGG/comments/35vpfr/hey_im_dexter_the_jungler_who_previously_played/cr899v5

On May 14 2015 18:39 DystopiaX wrote:
for a second I thought that Scarra was still CLG coach and Double's bit about no one helping him was that much better because he'd be throwing his current coach under the bus.

Still good reading though, that bit about Link blame deflecting in the same letter he calls blame deflecting the worst thing one can do is spot on.


Apparently, Scarra is trying out for CLG.Black coaching position according to r/clg, lomo.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 09:48:50
May 14 2015 09:48 GMT
#46
ElementsGG subreddit has a giant CLG logo if you have subreddit style disabled rofl.

If Scarra ends up being CLG challenger mid...
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 09:51:58
May 14 2015 09:51 GMT
#47
On May 14 2015 18:32 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 18:17 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:13 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 17:54 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 17:18 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 15:23 saddaromma wrote:
Trick is really smart, but his mechanics are not there, or atleast I didnt witness them because he always plays low skill champs. Nightblue on the other hand is good, but I haven't seen him tryhard mode. both are fucking around to entertain viewers, so we can't really tell.

On link's blog: I think Dlift is very detrimental for the team and should be benched. He is like my friend, who is forever stuck in Gold 3. Very good mechanics, high kill/death ratio, good at snowballing and carrying team, but 'bad' at the game. He always wonders why I am in plat, eventhough I have less kills on average (thats all that matters to him). And he aslways butthurt when he loses the lane due to enemy jungle pressure. Eventhough our jungle securing all objectives. Some people never learn I guess.


calling trick top 10 jungler in na is hilarious when the guy has never been even in challenger.
sure you can say ''oh hes an entertainer we've never seen him be serious'' but that doesn't prove that he's actually good lmao.

Getting into challenger isn't really hard given time and effort. Pretty sure even I can do it with my shitty mechanics.


yeah makes you wonder why hes been mid dia mostly with 100+ games /s
and thats not even the point. challenger is a requirement/bare minimum to be top 10 at any position. if you havent ever achieved what is an effortless venture for actual good players, you're probably not in the running for top 10.

Maybe thats because his goal isn't to be top 10 or even challenger for that matter.


you're missing the point again
actual top 10 players get challenger like they eat breakfast. its so fucking easy for them that it doesn't require any extra effort. if trick2g was an actual top 10 player he would've gotten challenger at some point in his life whether his goal is to get it or not.

now do you get how silly your argument is?


My argument of what?

Oh please, and drop that top 10 are something godlike idea. Is Dyrus significantly better than Trick? No. Is he considered top 10 toplaner NA? Yes. The only difference Dyrus always plays to win, trick plays to please the crowd.

Do you think if doublelift played everygame splitpushing and dancing at enemy nexus he would get challenger, I hardly doubt. When pro's stream they don't fuck around coz people watch them for skills.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 14 2015 09:53 GMT
#48
Poll: Who is the better mid laner?

Jiji (13)
 
57%

Pobelter (5)
 
22%

Link (3)
 
13%

Huhi (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Who is the better mid laner?

(Vote): Pobelter
(Vote): Huhi
(Vote): Link
(Vote): Jiji



'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 14 2015 10:00 GMT
#49
the whole situation is hilarious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 14 2015 10:03 GMT
#50
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 10:16:32
May 14 2015 10:15 GMT
#51
On May 14 2015 19:03 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 18:51 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:32 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:17 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:13 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 17:54 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 17:18 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 15:23 saddaromma wrote:
Trick is really smart, but his mechanics are not there, or atleast I didnt witness them because he always plays low skill champs. Nightblue on the other hand is good, but I haven't seen him tryhard mode. both are fucking around to entertain viewers, so we can't really tell.

On link's blog: I think Dlift is very detrimental for the team and should be benched. He is like my friend, who is forever stuck in Gold 3. Very good mechanics, high kill/death ratio, good at snowballing and carrying team, but 'bad' at the game. He always wonders why I am in plat, eventhough I have less kills on average (thats all that matters to him). And he aslways butthurt when he loses the lane due to enemy jungle pressure. Eventhough our jungle securing all objectives. Some people never learn I guess.


calling trick top 10 jungler in na is hilarious when the guy has never been even in challenger.
sure you can say ''oh hes an entertainer we've never seen him be serious'' but that doesn't prove that he's actually good lmao.

Getting into challenger isn't really hard given time and effort. Pretty sure even I can do it with my shitty mechanics.


yeah makes you wonder why hes been mid dia mostly with 100+ games /s
and thats not even the point. challenger is a requirement/bare minimum to be top 10 at any position. if you havent ever achieved what is an effortless venture for actual good players, you're probably not in the running for top 10.

Maybe thats because his goal isn't to be top 10 or even challenger for that matter.


you're missing the point again
actual top 10 players get challenger like they eat breakfast. its so fucking easy for them that it doesn't require any extra effort. if trick2g was an actual top 10 player he would've gotten challenger at some point in his life whether his goal is to get it or not.

now do you get how silly your argument is?


My argument of what?

Oh please, and drop that top 10 are something godlike idea. Is Dyrus significantly better than Trick? No. Is he considered top 10 toplaner NA? Yes. The only difference Dyrus always plays to win, trick plays to please the crowd.

Do you think if doublelift played everygame splitpushing and dancing at enemy nexus he would get challenger, I hardly doubt. When pro's stream they don't fuck around coz people watch them for skills.


1) Yes Dyrus is significantly better than Trick. wtf are you smoking?
2) Again, terrible example. doublelift playing every game dancing at nexus and splitpushing for the sake of it is putting effort into losing. also pros not fucking around stream is also hilarious. enter keane playing a-z midlaners, meteos playing jungle MF like a week ago, and countless other examples.

are you a trick2g sub or something? you sound delusional


-First of all I never said trick is top 10. My original statement on him was "Trick is really smart, but his mechanics are not there, or atleast I didnt witness them because he always plays low skill champs." Which is in any way doesnt mean he is pro material. You keep bringing up this top10 shit, I don't know why.
-Secondly, No, Dyrus isn't significantly better than Trick. Given if trick had same training process with 24/7 LoL only lifestyle. Did you even watch how Dyrus played Riven last two days? TBH I was so embarassed to watch that, like wtf NA.
-Thirdly, pros don't do crazy stuff everyday. They (if you follow them closely) sometimes go offstream and admit onstream they are dropping too much elo and need to fix that by tryharding.
-Lastly, please learn not to go personal when having argument with someone. What the fuck these words 'delusional/silly idea'.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 10:16:47
May 14 2015 10:16 GMT
#52
/delete double post
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 14 2015 10:22 GMT
#53
Effort is part of being a better player though. If Dyrus puts in more training and is better because of it, it DOES make him better than Trick. If he doesn't care enough to get better at the game then that makes Trick a worse player than Dyrus. That's some bronze scrub level "oh if I really grinded soloqueue I'd be gold" mentality. Koreans are better because of their infrastructure but also because they play way more League than western pros.

Also I guarantee that Dyrus is way better than Trick lol, bad Riven or no.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 10:30:29
May 14 2015 10:28 GMT
#54
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 14 2015 10:31 GMT
#55
On May 14 2015 18:22 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 18:15 Ansibled wrote:
https://twitter.com/CLGDoublelift/status/598774535312248832

...

Show nested quote +
Xmithie: selfless player, no ego + sick mechanics


What.


Hehehe I've been calling for double to get benched for like 2 seasons now lol.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
May 14 2015 10:43 GMT
#56
On May 14 2015 19:22 DystopiaX wrote:
Effort is part of being a better player though. If Dyrus puts in more training and is better because of it, it DOES make him better than Trick. If he doesn't care enough to get better at the game then that makes Trick a worse player than Dyrus. That's some bronze scrub level "oh if I really grinded soloqueue I'd be gold" mentality. Koreans are better because of their infrastructure but also because they play way more League than western pros.

Also I guarantee that Dyrus is way better than Trick lol, bad Riven or no.


I rofld when Dyrus failed to make over thin wall two times in a row with Riven Q.

All in all, what I want to say, I don't really think Dyrus is bad player. Quite opposite, I think he fits tsm well. What I generally mean, not everyone in diamond is tryharding. Many of them are fulltime students/workers therefore they dont have enough time and dedication to climb further. Can tsm put Trick into their roster now? No fucking way. After 6 months training? maybe, if the tank meta stays. If meta shifts to high skill champions I doubt Trick can keep up mechanically. Generally though, not all LCS players are godlike or unachievable.

Bjergsen and Koreans are different story though.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 10:54:45
May 14 2015 10:53 GMT
#57

On May 14 2015 19:28 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 19:15 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 19:03 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:51 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:32 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:17 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 18:13 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 17:54 saddaromma wrote:
On May 14 2015 17:18 krndandaman wrote:
On May 14 2015 15:23 saddaromma wrote:
Trick is really smart, but his mechanics are not there, or atleast I didnt witness them because he always plays low skill champs. Nightblue on the other hand is good, but I haven't seen him tryhard mode. both are fucking around to entertain viewers, so we can't really tell.

On link's blog: I think Dlift is very detrimental for the team and should be benched. He is like my friend, who is forever stuck in Gold 3. Very good mechanics, high kill/death ratio, good at snowballing and carrying team, but 'bad' at the game. He always wonders why I am in plat, eventhough I have less kills on average (thats all that matters to him). And he aslways butthurt when he loses the lane due to enemy jungle pressure. Eventhough our jungle securing all objectives. Some people never learn I guess.


calling trick top 10 jungler in na is hilarious when the guy has never been even in challenger.
sure you can say ''oh hes an entertainer we've never seen him be serious'' but that doesn't prove that he's actually good lmao.

Getting into challenger isn't really hard given time and effort. Pretty sure even I can do it with my shitty mechanics.


yeah makes you wonder why hes been mid dia mostly with 100+ games /s
and thats not even the point. challenger is a requirement/bare minimum to be top 10 at any position. if you havent ever achieved what is an effortless venture for actual good players, you're probably not in the running for top 10.

Maybe thats because his goal isn't to be top 10 or even challenger for that matter.


you're missing the point again
actual top 10 players get challenger like they eat breakfast. its so fucking easy for them that it doesn't require any extra effort. if trick2g was an actual top 10 player he would've gotten challenger at some point in his life whether his goal is to get it or not.

now do you get how silly your argument is?


My argument of what?

Oh please, and drop that top 10 are something godlike idea. Is Dyrus significantly better than Trick? No. Is he considered top 10 toplaner NA? Yes. The only difference Dyrus always plays to win, trick plays to please the crowd.

Do you think if doublelift played everygame splitpushing and dancing at enemy nexus he would get challenger, I hardly doubt. When pro's stream they don't fuck around coz people watch them for skills.


1) Yes Dyrus is significantly better than Trick. wtf are you smoking?
2) Again, terrible example. doublelift playing every game dancing at nexus and splitpushing for the sake of it is putting effort into losing. also pros not fucking around stream is also hilarious. enter keane playing a-z midlaners, meteos playing jungle MF like a week ago, and countless other examples.

are you a trick2g sub or something? you sound delusional


-First of all I never said trick is top 10. My original statement on him was "Trick is really smart, but his mechanics are not there, or atleast I didnt witness them because he always plays low skill champs." Which is in any way doesnt mean he is pro material. You keep bringing up this top10 shit, I don't know why.
-Secondly, No, Dyrus isn't significantly better than Trick. Given if trick had same training process with 24/7 LoL only lifestyle. Did you even watch how Dyrus played Riven last two days? TBH I was so embarassed to watch that, like wtf NA.
-Thirdly, pros don't do crazy stuff everyday. They (if you follow them closely) sometimes go offstream and admit onstream they are dropping too much elo and need to fix that by tryharding.
-Lastly, please learn not to go personal when having argument with someone. What the fuck these words 'delusional/silly idea'.


- you implied he could be since you said 'we can't tell'. of course we can tell. he's absolutely not a top jungler and to bring up the point that he hasn't tried to be one is stupid because that's like saying we can't tell if I'm the best golfer in the world because I've never tried to be one. its redundant at best.
-yes he is. you think dyrus isn't significantly better than trick based on a few games of soloq in 1 day in an elo miles above trick? k.
- pros doing crazy stuff isn't even my point. you seem to have a hard time understanding them so here it is again: my point is that all streaming pros are different and some fuck around more and some tryhard more. you can't generalize all of them into one category.
-its not personal. the notion that trick2g is on a similar level as dyrus is just so silly that the only logical explanation I can think of is you're a trick2g fan with an extreme perception of him.


Implied what? he is top 10? Wtf wrong with you. I can't tell what is his real skill level thats all there is. I wasn't admiring the possibility him being top 10. I don't even think its possible. Since some of his plays are godawful.

Again going personal, not a fan, not a fan of anyone except maybe my hometown football team. I don't even watch trick2g that much. Only sometimes when I grab a bear to have fun. My general preferences are Froggen, Bjergsen, Koreans for their skills. I watch Dyrus for same reason as trick2g, for the lulz and fun.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 10:55:42
May 14 2015 10:54 GMT
#58
/double post again. Cant get used to this. Why wouldn't they keep original TL design.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 14 2015 10:54 GMT
#59
Did Febiven not expose Bjergsen enough already? :>

I look forward to watching this CLG roster do better than expected and then crashing and burning afterwards.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 14 2015 11:01 GMT
#60
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