On May 15 2015 07:42 Sonnington wrote: To be fair to Link he has carried the team. He had the highest kill participation and easily the highest damage dealt to enemy champs last split. Go further back, look at the summer split. He came back from all-stars and was a friggen god. He was actually winning in CS and dominating his lane opponent. CLG was number 1 until the end where he slumped like crazy. CLG's performance really has hinged on Link's performance. The problem has always come in when they go to tournaments and playoffs Link will choke. Then the team has no idea what to do because they've relied so heavily on Link.
Oh good old find someone to blame. So much soloq mentality inhere. There is no such thing as choking. Either your team fail or they will win. Apparently CLG was/is disfuctioning. It has nothing to do with individual player performance. It is not SOLO-Q ffs.
lol?
Are you trying to say everyone on a team has equal influence on every game they play? That's beyond ridiculous.
One day I went to middle lane to do what I always did and Link told me not to take his CS or to come middle lane unless he asks me to. I was going to argue back but then the god himself Doublelift speaks up and says he hates it when someone steals his CS.
Chauster is a legend :dddddddddddd that was a fun read.
On May 15 2015 07:42 Sonnington wrote: To be fair to Link he has carried the team. He had the highest kill participation and easily the highest damage dealt to enemy champs last split. Go further back, look at the summer split. He came back from all-stars and was a friggen god. He was actually winning in CS and dominating his lane opponent. CLG was number 1 until the end where he slumped like crazy. CLG's performance really has hinged on Link's performance. The problem has always come in when they go to tournaments and playoffs Link will choke. Then the team has no idea what to do because they've relied so heavily on Link.
Oh good old find someone to blame. So much soloq mentality inhere. There is no such thing as choking. Either your team fail or they will win. Apparently CLG was/is disfuctioning. It has nothing to do with individual player performance. It is not SOLO-Q ffs.
lol?
Are you trying to say everyone on a team has equal influence on every game they play? That's beyond ridiculous.
saying that whole team relies on one player is even more ridiculous. far beyond ridiculous.
"The problems never had to be the players because if there had been an established infrastructure, 95% of the player problems would not even exist."
Some true-ass insight from Chau right there. The biggest difference between TSM and CLG has always been Regi and Hotshot, and well, one is a lot firmer and has a lot more impact. So, one team wins; one team dies.
It's amusing reading all these personal disclosures, all of them think they're the best thing sinced sliced bread and none seem to have the vaguest understanding of the concept of empathy.
On May 15 2015 07:42 Sonnington wrote: To be fair to Link he has carried the team. He had the highest kill participation and easily the highest damage dealt to enemy champs last split. Go further back, look at the summer split. He came back from all-stars and was a friggen god. He was actually winning in CS and dominating his lane opponent. CLG was number 1 until the end where he slumped like crazy. CLG's performance really has hinged on Link's performance. The problem has always come in when they go to tournaments and playoffs Link will choke. Then the team has no idea what to do because they've relied so heavily on Link.
Oh good old find someone to blame. So much soloq mentality inhere. There is no such thing as choking. Either your team fail or they will win. Apparently CLG was/is disfuctioning. It has nothing to do with individual player performance. It is not SOLO-Q ffs.
lol?
Are you trying to say everyone on a team has equal influence on every game they play? That's beyond ridiculous.
saying that whole team relies on one player is even more ridiculous. far beyond ridiculous.
Yeah mate. To think there's some sort of correlation between how the best player on a team plays and whether the team wins or not. What a weird concept...
On May 15 2015 12:36 Dan HH wrote: It's amusing reading all these personal disclosures, all of them think they're the best thing sinced sliced bread and none seem to have the vaguest understanding of the concept of empathy.
At the cost of empathy, these ex-CLG members aside from Doublelift are protecting their self image by defending themselves with their point of view while somehow magically signaling CLG management that things need to change, and they need to change quickly.
Chauster's story is just icing on the cake with enough honesty and jest to solidify this drama
Eventually I found out that Saint was just a pathological liar.
Oh, damn.
Hotshot is the type of person to not be able to handle criticism on the spot and he becomes hyper defensive, which when combined with how I used to be, the environment becomes not as productive as I am trying to make him accept the wrong then and there.
Couldn't agree more on this one.
The best example that I remember is after taking a tower early game, Double (Caitlyn) farmed wraiths and wolves on cooldown because it was “impossible to take mid tower versus an orianna” 3v1 as she had “wave clear”.
That explains a bit that Doublelift isn't that good at game understanding and lane phase is everything to him.
The biggest problem with Voyboy was that he always wanted to run crazy top laners that were literally picked just to be hip.
Voy !!!! )))
Kelby approached me after the tryouts and informed me that I could join the team as tryouts had failed (I believe nrated tried out and one of the terms was that his GF MUST live in the house which was a no go as CLG has learned not to trust GFs in their short life as an organization).
Huehue ^^
A phrase that became common to the team was “whoops, I’m dead”. The phrase was so common that we would mock Voy because we thought it was funny and Voy told us not to because he didn’t want it to become a thing. 8D
That's a good one.
Once he was on that train of thought, he never let go, and eventually we decided that Elementz was not fit to be on the team. I agreed as well as jiji, so we made Saint look completely innocent while we had to boot Elementz off the team. Tl;dr, we told Elementz he was getting kicked off the team and one minute later everyone ended the call and then everyone went to play solo queue. Elementz was just left in a Skype chat by himself, so I did him a favor and explained what I thought.
That was pretty cruel how did they handle Elements removal from the team...
Also as expected, Chauster confirmed that Saint was CLG's best jungler.
The problem with all of this? It's not even good drama. I mean, really is anything that has been said by either of these 3 people shocking or revealing? All of this seems like things people have been saying since forever.
It just happens to all be put out in the open all at once, even those most of this was accurately discussed/speculated on for years.
On May 15 2015 13:45 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The problem with all of this? It's not even good drama. I mean, really is anything that has been said by either of these 3 people shocking or revealing? All of this seems like things people have been saying since forever.
It just happens to all be put out in the open all at once, even those most of this was accurately discussed/speculated on for years.
Pretty much this. If you analyzed the games you could see it clear as day. Plus back then they streamed everything. So could easily guess what was actually going on behind the scenes.
This just confirms it and is finally out in the open for all to see.