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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 16:05:14
May 14 2015 16:05 GMT
#81
^ REMAKE
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 16:52:22
May 14 2015 16:39 GMT
#82
Link revealed all the secrets and playstyle of CLG

It's like he want CLG to relegate lmoa.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 14 2015 16:51 GMT
#83
lol NA
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loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
May 14 2015 17:00 GMT
#84
On May 15 2015 01:03 Fusilero wrote:

This is an appropriate time for everyone revisit the exact moment counter logic gaming died.

Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
May 14 2015 17:06 GMT
#85
Other than the part where Link absolves himself of most of the blame, I do think what he wrote makes a lot of sense. Apparently Chauster is preparing a big post too.

On May 15 2015 01:39 Mensol wrote:
Link revealed all the secrets and playstyle of CLG

It's like he want CLG to relegate lmoa.

He also lit a huge fire in the CLG camp to perhaps finally push them deal with their problems, since every other method so far hasn't worked. It's now on CLG to really wake up and fix things faster than opposing teams can use this information to exploit them.
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 18:06:29
May 14 2015 17:38 GMT
#86
On May 15 2015 01:03 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHrxULV5h9E&feature=youtu.be&t=1940
This is an appropriate time for everyone revisit the exact moment counter logic gaming died.


Wait, didn't Link just say in his little writeup that Dexter was doing something stupid here? It looks like someone pinged on TSM's red buff(probably Dexter) while Double was initially backing. Link went into the banana brush behind baron pit, saw it was pink warded and instead of walking towards his team he ran in the opposite direction into TSM. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Then Doublelift basically runs into the enemy team 1v4 and suicides.

The whole letter is basically a fuck you to CLG. I guess he doesn't want a job in e-sports. I don't see any team signing him after this. Which is a shame, because according to him he's the best analyst on CLG. He purportedly watches more games than Scarra and Zikz and comes up with all the level 1 strats with Aphro.

Worse than Trick2g who is the absolute Godyre of the jungle. Link references XJ9 as a top NA jungle. Come on. How would anyone even know that?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
May 14 2015 17:42 GMT
#87
If only Hotshot took the money he put into CLG up to this point and invested it into cloning research instead, maybe we'd've realized the four Chausters + Doublelift dream team already.
TranslatorBaa!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 14 2015 18:08 GMT
#88
On May 15 2015 02:38 Sonnington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 01:03 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHrxULV5h9E&feature=youtu.be&t=1940
This is an appropriate time for everyone revisit the exact moment counter logic gaming died.


Wait, didn't Link just say in his little writeup that Dexter was doing something stupid here? It looks like someone pinged on TSM's red buff(probably Dexter) while Double was initially backing. Link went into the banana brush behind baron pit, saw it was pink warded and instead of walking towards his team he ran in the opposite direction into TSM. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Then Doublelift basically runs into the enemy team 1v4 and suicides.

The whole letter is basically a fuck you to CLG. I guess he doesn't want a job in e-sports. I don't see any team signing him after this. Which is a shame, because according to him he's the best analyst on CLG. He purportedly watches more games than Scarra and Zikz and comes up with all the level 1 strats with Aphro.

Worse than Trick2g who is the absolute Godyre of the jungle. Link references XJ9 as a top NA jungle. Come on. How would anyone even know that?


It's pretty known that XJ9 is best NA jungler to play this game, lol.
And if you read letter, you probably could learn that he's not searching anyting in esports and going back to Berkeley.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 19:15:05
May 14 2015 19:14 GMT
#89
So much ridiculous shit. They should just hire R. Lee Ermey to come in and be their coach while simply yelling at and berating them for hours on end. Then they simply forge bonds of friendship through mutual hatred of their coach and win purely to spite him. At least that'd be funny.

Instead I'm sure they'll fine an ineffectual coach and CLG will have ups and downs and finish in the middle. Shocking.

edit: Also 0% chance of me reading 18 pages of a Delusional Link make justifications.
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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
May 14 2015 19:21 GMT
#90
Got so much drama today that my bloodlust is filled until next week.
Science>Mechanics
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
May 14 2015 19:23 GMT
#91
When you combine the spotlights of Link and Doublelift's statements, you basically end up with what Thorin said before; the whole barrel's rotten.

Well, when you get past a certain point, the saying "Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants" applies.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 19:42:55
May 14 2015 19:35 GMT
#92
You can't really blame 4 splits of problems on one player :^)

Burn that shit to the ground. Only problem is HSGG doesn't have the balls or managerial chops to do so. Kick Double and Link, pick any random soloq talent, hire a good coach, and you'll get a team that can at least go somewhere. Instead of straight into the garbage as soon as team issues don't automatically work themselves out.

If Stixxay happens, and he plays more than like two games, I will be *amazed.* I don't think there's a chance in hell he gets any serious play time.
XDG Mata
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
May 14 2015 19:58 GMT
#93
On May 15 2015 03:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 02:38 Sonnington wrote:
On May 15 2015 01:03 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHrxULV5h9E&feature=youtu.be&t=1940
This is an appropriate time for everyone revisit the exact moment counter logic gaming died.


Wait, didn't Link just say in his little writeup that Dexter was doing something stupid here? It looks like someone pinged on TSM's red buff(probably Dexter) while Double was initially backing. Link went into the banana brush behind baron pit, saw it was pink warded and instead of walking towards his team he ran in the opposite direction into TSM. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Then Doublelift basically runs into the enemy team 1v4 and suicides.

The whole letter is basically a fuck you to CLG. I guess he doesn't want a job in e-sports. I don't see any team signing him after this. Which is a shame, because according to him he's the best analyst on CLG. He purportedly watches more games than Scarra and Zikz and comes up with all the level 1 strats with Aphro.

Worse than Trick2g who is the absolute Godyre of the jungle. Link references XJ9 as a top NA jungle. Come on. How would anyone even know that?


It's pretty known that XJ9 is best NA jungler to play this game, lol.
And if you read letter, you probably could learn that he's not searching anyting in esports and going back to Berkeley.


Saying XJ9 is one of the best junglers in NA is a bit like saying Apdo is the best Korean mid laner. Except, XJ9 hasn't played in 2 years. So the whole idea is pretty ridiculous to me.

Yeah man, there was no way I was reading through that whole thing. If he used 'like' less and removed 'lol' and 'lmao' I would've been more inclined to give it a proper go. Let me assure you, I was quite thorough in the skim my friend.
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
May 14 2015 22:08 GMT
#94
Link states that he doesn't (want to) work with passive/non shotcalling junglers, and is then surprised/salty when the team wants to try other midlaners. LOL. Clearly a shotcalling mid would work better with dexter/xsmithie. They should have never got link back when they realised Xsmithie is quiet, shouldve looked for a loud shotcalling mid right from them on.

Looks to me like link has emotional issues, he seems to have low self esteem while somehow also thinking he was carrying the team and doing everything better than every other member of CLG. I find it really strange that he blames lots of other people and never really says anything about all the mistakes he made.

Doublelift is a egomaniac but I think a strong coach/strong shotcalling midlaner could help him. Just watching Trick tell him what to do was kinda interesting, seemed like the kinda thing he needs. DL also clearly has trust issues. I think it has something to do with his parents/how he was raised.

Like other people said best idea would be to get rid of DL aswell but thats probably not happening. If they get a good coach I think they MIGHT be ok...
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
May 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#95
To be fair to Link he has carried the team. He had the highest kill participation and easily the highest damage dealt to enemy champs last split. Go further back, look at the summer split. He came back from all-stars and was a friggen god. He was actually winning in CS and dominating his lane opponent. CLG was number 1 until the end where he slumped like crazy. CLG's performance really has hinged on Link's performance. The problem has always come in when they go to tournaments and playoffs Link will choke. Then the team has no idea what to do because they've relied so heavily on Link.
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 23:34:22
May 14 2015 23:23 GMT
#96
Also I think CLG could've also done what Link wanted and got a shot calling Jungler which may have worked better. But having a Mid player and a Jungle player that have no chemistry in a meta where jungle & mid is so important.... Is never going to work.

This never happened, possibly because noone trusted Link, possibly because Link wasn't vocal enough regarding asking for the tools he needs what he needed to excel.


On a slightly different note, I think Doublelift needs to be a on a team where nobody respects him. People need to ignore everything he shotcalls in the game and tell him what to do. Let him feed information to the team but don't let him make calls.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
May 14 2015 23:30 GMT
#97
On May 15 2015 08:23 ZataN wrote:

On a slightly different note, I think Doublelift needs to be a on a team where nobody respects him. People need to ignore everything he shotcalls in the game and tell him what to do. Let him feed information to the team but don't let him make calls.


C9.Dlift :B

XDG Mata
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 15 2015 00:21 GMT
#98
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sm74d2

A WILD CHAUSTER SHOW UP

DRAMA CONTINUES
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 00:34:48
May 15 2015 00:34 GMT
#99
On May 15 2015 07:42 Sonnington wrote:
To be fair to Link he has carried the team. He had the highest kill participation and easily the highest damage dealt to enemy champs last split. Go further back, look at the summer split. He came back from all-stars and was a friggen god. He was actually winning in CS and dominating his lane opponent. CLG was number 1 until the end where he slumped like crazy. CLG's performance really has hinged on Link's performance. The problem has always come in when they go to tournaments and playoffs Link will choke. Then the team has no idea what to do because they've relied so heavily on Link.

Oh good old find someone to blame. So much soloq mentality inhere. There is no such thing as choking. Either your team fail or they will win. Apparently CLG was/is disfuctioning. It has nothing to do with individual player performance. It is not SOLO-Q ffs.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 15 2015 00:42 GMT
#100
Chauster the God.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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