On May 14 2015 17:54 saddaromma wrote: [quote] Getting into challenger isn't really hard given time and effort. Pretty sure even I can do it with my shitty mechanics.
yeah makes you wonder why hes been mid dia mostly with 100+ games /s and thats not even the point. challenger is a requirement/bare minimum to be top 10 at any position. if you havent ever achieved what is an effortless venture for actual good players, you're probably not in the running for top 10.
Maybe thats because his goal isn't to be top 10 or even challenger for that matter.
you're missing the point again actual top 10 players get challenger like they eat breakfast. its so fucking easy for them that it doesn't require any extra effort. if trick2g was an actual top 10 player he would've gotten challenger at some point in his life whether his goal is to get it or not.
now do you get how silly your argument is?
My argument of what?
Oh please, and drop that top 10 are something godlike idea. Is Dyrus significantly better than Trick? No. Is he considered top 10 toplaner NA? Yes. The only difference Dyrus always plays to win, trick plays to please the crowd.
Do you think if doublelift played everygame splitpushing and dancing at enemy nexus he would get challenger, I hardly doubt. When pro's stream they don't fuck around coz people watch them for skills.
1) Yes Dyrus is significantly better than Trick. wtf are you smoking? 2) Again, terrible example. doublelift playing every game dancing at nexus and splitpushing for the sake of it is putting effort into losing. also pros not fucking around stream is also hilarious. enter keane playing a-z midlaners, meteos playing jungle MF like a week ago, and countless other examples.
are you a trick2g sub or something? you sound delusional
-First of all I never said trick is top 10. My original statement on him was "Trick is really smart, but his mechanics are not there, or atleast I didnt witness them because he always plays low skill champs." Which is in any way doesnt mean he is pro material. You keep bringing up this top10 shit, I don't know why. -Secondly, No, Dyrus isn't significantly better than Trick. Given if trick had same training process with 24/7 LoL only lifestyle. Did you even watch how Dyrus played Riven last two days? TBH I was so embarassed to watch that, like wtf NA. -Thirdly, pros don't do crazy stuff everyday. They (if you follow them closely) sometimes go offstream and admit onstream they are dropping too much elo and need to fix that by tryharding. -Lastly, please learn not to go personal when having argument with someone. What the fuck these words 'delusional/silly idea'.
- you implied he could be since you said 'we can't tell'. of course we can tell. he's absolutely not a top jungler and to bring up the point that he hasn't tried to be one is stupid because that's like saying we can't tell if I'm the best golfer in the world because I've never tried to be one. its redundant at best. -yes he is. you think dyrus isn't significantly better than trick based on a few games of soloq in 1 day in an elo miles above trick? k. - pros doing crazy stuff isn't even my point. you seem to have a hard time understanding them so here it is again: my point is that all streaming pros are different and some fuck around more and some tryhard more. you can't generalize all of them into one category. -its not personal. the notion that trick2g is on a similar level as dyrus is just so silly that the only logical explanation I can think of is you're a trick2g fan with an extreme perception of him.
Implied what? he is top 10? Wtf wrong with you. I can't tell what is his real skill level thats all there is. I wasn't admiring the possibility him being top 10. I don't even think its possible. Since some of his plays are godawful.
Again going personal, not a fan, not a fan of anyone except maybe my hometown football team. I don't even watch trick2g that much. Only sometimes when I grab a bear to have fun. My general preferences are Froggen, Bjergsen, Koreans for their skills. I watch Dyrus for same reason as trick2g, for the lulz and fun.
I wasn't admiring the possibility him being top 10. I don't even think its possible.
????? that's exactly what i've been saying the whole time.
you're asking me wtf is wrong with me? thats what i've been saying while you bring all these nonsensical arguments only to agree with me at the end thinking for god knows what reason that I've been arguing something else.
k i'm done with this. im guessing english isn't your first language and something is getting lost in translation.
No dude, I was arguing with you because you sounded it like top challenger and pro level is something unachievable for regular guys with no exceptional talents. All I am saying its very much possible in NA in its current state.
So tl;dr of this Link article is that he is seriously delusional as fuck and I can't even be sure about any of what he said.
He might think he has talent but he was dumpstered repeatedly by pretty much everyone in NA over the past 18 months so I can understand the frustration DL aimed at him during that time since he could actually win his lane.
It's not like this iteration of CLG will be any better, they have to actually get an effective team environment/support staff or they'll still bomb out in playoffs like they always do.
On May 14 2015 20:19 las91 wrote: So tl;dr of this Link article is that he is seriously delusional as fuck and I can't even be sure about any of what he said.
He might think he has talent but he was dumpstered repeatedly by pretty much everyone in NA over the past 18 months so I can understand the frustration DL aimed at him during that time since he could actually win his lane.
It's not like this iteration of CLG will be any better, they have to actually get an effective team environment/support staff or they'll still bomb out in playoffs like they always do.
They lost because they didn't play well as a team (like TSM in MSI). Has nothing to do with link's performance on solo lane.
The real thing they're missing is a leader. Double seems unwilling to take that on and the others seem unable, possibly in part to them being unable to handle double effectively but for the most part none of them seem capable. I'm sure there are people out there who can do it but I doubt pobelter is one of them.
On May 15 2015 00:23 Numy wrote: I thought he was quitting after burning that bridge down.
Gamepedia trying to get views on drama. nothing new. "Muh Link joined muh Seraph, now we just need Nien, Saint and Chauster and this is truly anti-CLG team" My Godness, why are people that stupid.
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