EPTOn May 11 2015 08:30 Sufficiency wrote:
This champion reminds me of Tanya in RA3 =)
This champion reminds me of Tanya in RA3 =)
Yeah, baby
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 11 2015 02:19 ItsFunToLose wrote: whether true or not for all junglers in all situations, I'm sure you can admit that there does exist a breakpoint for a situation where 1 spell plus 6 auto attacks clears minion X, with and without bladed armor, resulting in no net gain to your clear speed vs minion X. The difference in bladed vs no bladed being gobbled up by your last auto attack. maybe without bladed armor, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 48 HP minion, and with it, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 16 HP minion. You did not clear faster. breakpoints. Apparently on TL somebody can say that the mastery that has the biggest effect on your clear speed does "literally nothing", when that can be proven false in 5 minutes in a solo custom game, and instead of being warned for spreading blatantly wrong information / unjustified game theory / whatever you want to call it, the strategy forum mod defends them. Good shit. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35129 Posts
On May 11 2015 08:48 Ketara wrote: Apparently on TL somebody can say that the mastery that has the biggest effect on your clear speed does "literally nothing", when that can be proven false in 5 minutes in a solo custom game, and instead of being warned for spreading blatantly wrong information / unjustified game theory / whatever you want to call it, the strategy forum mod defends them. Good shit. That's ItsFunToLose not Lost My Will To Live. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Now I'm confused. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On May 11 2015 08:48 Ketara wrote: Apparently on TL somebody can say that the mastery that has the biggest effect on your clear speed does "literally nothing", when that can be proven false in 5 minutes in a solo custom game, and instead of being warned for spreading blatantly wrong information / unjustified game theory / whatever you want to call it, the strategy forum mod defends them. Good shit. ? He's right. Can yous top making super whiny posts in GD everytime someone disagrees with you? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Why don't you prove it. Show me some jungle clears. I would, but I'm in Indonesia. What's your excuse? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Gahlo
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Lost My Will To Live
Botswana601 Posts
On May 11 2015 08:48 Ketara wrote: Apparently on TL somebody can say that the mastery that has the biggest effect on your clear speed does "literally nothing", when that can be proven false in 5 minutes in a solo custom game, and instead of being warned for spreading blatantly wrong information / unjustified game theory / whatever you want to call it, the strategy forum mod defends them. Good shit. Ketara, if you can go ahead and find my post where I say Bladed Armor does nothing, then I'll own up and admit that I was wrong about my statement and you can continue with your whining. But if you can't, then I suggest you please stop posting for now. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35129 Posts
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
I was suggesting it doesn't always do something(in response to an exasperated ketara whose mind was literally blown that someone could suggest it doesn't help). there is a difference. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On May 11 2015 09:59 Gahlo wrote: I just don't get it. Is he supposed to be a mid? Is he a mage? His design is wonky as all fuck. He is a melee physical damage dealer with very low mana costs so I am guessing top. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On May 11 2015 10:16 ItsFunToLose wrote: just for clarity, I also didn't take the position that it does nothing. I was suggesting it doesn't always do something Which is a very reasonable stance and how I read your post, but apparently that's not how others read it zz. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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Lost My Will To Live
Botswana601 Posts
Now Ketara, I highly suggest you take a break and calm down before you post again. There's no need to jump and say GD is giving you cancer the moment someone proposes an argument that counters yours. That's not how you handle disagreements. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 11 2015 10:16 ItsFunToLose wrote: just for clarity, I also didn't take the position that it does nothing. I was suggesting it doesn't always do something(in response to an exasperated ketara whose mind was literally blown that someone could suggest it doesn't help). there is a difference. Because, quite simply, it provides the highest average dps of any mastery. for a given dps increase there are two axis on which you can trade off. You can consistently give a low effect and have no effect with no probability. And you can unreliably give a large effect and have no effect much of the time. As dps increases the consistency of the duration of the effect must increase. Blades armor gives the highest dps of any mastery such, for a given consistency it must have the highest effect or for a given effect it must have the highest consistency. Basically your statement is like saying "smite doesn't help clear the jungle because sometimes you won't use it on a jungle monster". Or "smite doesn't help clear the jungle because you clear a camp within its Cooldown". Both of which are dumb. The times you do use it it has a massive effect and overall it has the biggest effect, even if it didn't help you on that one camp you just did. Edit: quite simply even if it doesn't help you on that one camp you just did it still helped you get to that camp faster, which is the same thing. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On May 11 2015 10:25 Lost My Will To Live wrote: I read the entire conversation and Ketara, I don't see why you're so upset. Kaethis clearly outlines what he thinks about the 9 points in defense and the arguments are solid and sound. Block/unyielding are very strong and useful during all times of the game. There may have been some exaggeration in saying bladed armor doesn't make ANY difference at all, but there's no need to get worked up over someone using hyperbole. Everyone knows Bladed Armor will help you clear a tad faster, but whether or not that's significant who knows? And is it worth not taking a point in unyielding? That's what the post was trying to outline. Now Ketara, I highly suggest you take a break and calm down before you post again. There's no need to jump and say GD is giving you cancer the moment someone proposes an argument that counters yours. That's not how you handle disagreements. Welcome to GD! | ||
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Lost My Will To Live
Botswana601 Posts
On May 11 2015 10:25 Goumindong wrote: Also because he (and I) were warned/banned for saying something with factual and empirical supporting backing because c sheep didnt like it. But here someone says something utterly ridiculous and verifiable without testing or verifying and there is no such similar response. Okay, your statement was mostly correct. The way you used it to argue your point was pretty bad and incorrectly applied. You basically said "Ashe does good damage for an AD carry because let's just ignore all the AD carries with steroids" when we say "Ashe has the best non-ASPD steroid". That's just poor usage of your facts to argue a case. Did it warrant a ban? Probably not. But let's not compare the two cases, because it's absolutely not the same. We'll end this conversation here and continue what was discussed before. | ||
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