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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 10 2015 13:54 GMT
#681
On May 10 2015 22:26 Ketara wrote:
Oh my god, kaethis said bladed armor doesn't make you kill jungle monsters faster.

I need to get the fuck out of GD before my cancer becomes terminal.

It doesn't make much of a difference on champions that can clear decently though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 17:50:00
May 10 2015 15:18 GMT
#682
EUW is dead. It's not like I wanted to close out that game and get into promos anyway.

Nvm it was a drophack. So it even happens in Gold now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 10 2015 15:45 GMT
#683
Hey the jump back over the wall bug just cost me a game.

YAY

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 10 2015 16:08 GMT
#684
On May 11 2015 00:45 Ansibled wrote:
Hey the jump back over the wall bug just cost me a game.

YAY


you're basically an LCS pro now
Bronze player stuck in platinum
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 18:04:51
May 10 2015 17:19 GMT
#685
On May 10 2015 22:26 Ketara wrote:
Oh my god, kaethis said bladed armor doesn't make you kill jungle monsters faster.

I need to get the fuck out of GD before my cancer becomes terminal.


whether true or not for all junglers in all situations, I'm sure you can admit that there does exist a breakpoint for a situation where 1 spell plus 6 auto attacks clears minion X, with and without bladed armor, resulting in no net gain to your clear speed vs minion X. The difference in bladed vs no bladed being gobbled up by your last auto attack. maybe without bladed armor, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 48 HP minion, and with it, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 16 HP minion. You did not clear faster. breakpoints.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 10 2015 18:25 GMT
#686
While you guys are debating the marginal difference over Bladed Armor / Unyielding, I am just sitting here gaining free Elo with Nunu and not care about minor mastery differences.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#687
Do you build any AP on him?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#688
http://www.liquidlegends.net/stream/wickd

Wickd streaming scrims on his new team.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#689
On May 11 2015 03:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Do you build any AP on him?

And now I'm laughing again at people who thought cinderhulk would balance the jungle.
Freeeeeeedom
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 10 2015 19:17 GMT
#690
On May 11 2015 03:25 Sufficiency wrote:
While you guys are debating the marginal difference over Bladed Armor / Unyielding, I am just sitting here gaining free Elo with Nunu and not care about minor mastery differences.

I can't win with Nunu, something about picking the champion makes my sololanes die 1v1/2v2 within 3 minutes of the game.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 10 2015 19:35 GMT
#691
On May 11 2015 02:19 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 22:26 Ketara wrote:
Oh my god, kaethis said bladed armor doesn't make you kill jungle monsters faster.

I need to get the fuck out of GD before my cancer becomes terminal.


whether true or not for all junglers in all situations, I'm sure you can admit that there does exist a breakpoint for a situation where 1 spell plus 6 auto attacks clears minion X, with and without bladed armor, resulting in no net gain to your clear speed vs minion X. The difference in bladed vs no bladed being gobbled up by your last auto attack. maybe without bladed armor, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 48 HP minion, and with it, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 16 HP minion. You did not clear faster. breakpoints.

By that logic no masteries make you clear faster. Bladed armor has the highest dps/point of investment of any mastery. So if anything is going to make you clear faster it's that.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
May 10 2015 19:54 GMT
#692
On May 11 2015 02:19 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 22:26 Ketara wrote:
Oh my god, kaethis said bladed armor doesn't make you kill jungle monsters faster.

I need to get the fuck out of GD before my cancer becomes terminal.


whether true or not for all junglers in all situations, I'm sure you can admit that there does exist a breakpoint for a situation where 1 spell plus 6 auto attacks clears minion X, with and without bladed armor, resulting in no net gain to your clear speed vs minion X. The difference in bladed vs no bladed being gobbled up by your last auto attack. maybe without bladed armor, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 48 HP minion, and with it, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 16 HP minion. You did not clear faster. breakpoints.

There's a big difference between "It might not help at X time with Y items and Z spells." but to say outright that it doesn't help at all is stupid.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 10 2015 21:14 GMT
#693
On May 11 2015 04:17 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 03:25 Sufficiency wrote:
While you guys are debating the marginal difference over Bladed Armor / Unyielding, I am just sitting here gaining free Elo with Nunu and not care about minor mastery differences.

I can't win with Nunu, something about picking the champion makes my sololanes die 1v1/2v2 within 3 minutes of the game.


Max Q first.

Get Stalker's -> Cinderhulk.

Run around and be annoying.

???

Win.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
May 10 2015 22:39 GMT
#694
What is the general opinion on starting relic shield on ranged supports with a Kallista adc? I think FotM is the most useful support item mid/lategame (because you have junglers/toplaners with rightous glory anyway) and the relic regen is very nice to have. With Kallista you have an execute anyway so there is no disadvantage in being ranged. So why not just go Janna with FotM for even more shields?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 22:52:20
May 10 2015 22:51 GMT
#695
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 10 2015 23:16 GMT
#696
So how good is the new Black Cleaver for busting tanks?

I'm asking because I'm considering alternatives for itemization against tanks in the top lane. I was laning against a Maokai as Darius and I was literally beating on him for so long that he went oom before he ran out of health.

It was a long laning phase.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 23:22:44
May 10 2015 23:22 GMT
#697


new champion
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 10 2015 23:30 GMT
#698
This champion reminds me of Tanya in RA3 =)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
May 10 2015 23:34 GMT
#699
On May 11 2015 02:19 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 22:26 Ketara wrote:
Oh my god, kaethis said bladed armor doesn't make you kill jungle monsters faster.

I need to get the fuck out of GD before my cancer becomes terminal.


whether true or not for all junglers in all situations, I'm sure you can admit that there does exist a breakpoint for a situation where 1 spell plus 6 auto attacks clears minion X, with and without bladed armor, resulting in no net gain to your clear speed vs minion X. The difference in bladed vs no bladed being gobbled up by your last auto attack. maybe without bladed armor, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 48 HP minion, and with it, your 50 damage auto attack kills a 16 HP minion. You did not clear faster. breakpoints.


Indeed. There are junglers where it does make a difference, like Mundo/Amumu or other junglers which have aoe abilities, but for most of them it will not do anything or barely anything. Probably wrong to say it does completely nothing but it's close enough that I don't bother ever getting it.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
May 10 2015 23:37 GMT
#700
On May 11 2015 08:16 Frudgey wrote:
So how good is the new Black Cleaver for busting tanks?

I'm asking because I'm considering alternatives for itemization against tanks in the top lane. I was laning against a Maokai as Darius and I was literally beating on him for so long that he went oom before he ran out of health.

It was a long laning phase.

Better than the old one because of an additional passive stack, much better build up to duke it out.
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