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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 24 2014 15:31 killerdog wrote: Isn't it more for her e? Her mid-lategame is basically walk around being tanky and e'ing people as often as she can, so you want 40% cdr ASAP Correct, she's a lot weaker without the 15AP early and midgame, CDR isn't important until you get levels in E in. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On November 24 2014 09:45 wei2coolman wrote: If gold is top 13%. How da fuq am I in gold ii? Cuz I'm god damn awful at this game. In the wise words of qtpie, no matter how bad you are, there are at least 20,000 people worse. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Edit: on that note, after like a 10 game winstreak I'm d5 again. Why do I always hit diamond the second it no longer matters? And if I climb to, say, d3 before s5 starts, could I still be put in diamond if I do well in placements? | ||
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 24 2014 17:42 RagequitBM wrote: I think last season the highest you could be placed was in Plat. Even challenger players. I have the memory of a goldfish though so I might be wrong. That is correct, plat1 was the highest. If your MMR is high enough you'll skip D4 and then D2 and get to D1 in 3 promotion series. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I was winning the trades until a taunt->passive->Q combo (and some hits while W held) didn't do enough damage anymore and he'd mostly heal it back up before taunt was off cd (and I had the energy) again, he started cloth+5 and bought NMM after noticing most of my damage is actually magic and no spellvamp so I assume he should have started bodying me much earlier. He wasn't bodying me so much as rylai made it impossible to stick to him past the taunt and I'd lose a dps race (having to build sunfire to keep the pushing up didn't help). Not sure which offensive item I should build on Shen in that case. Or just straight-up warmogs and play it out like an attrition wr? It works on stuff with limited sustain like Renekton but I don't believe it'd work on Vlad, though. BotRK I guess as Triforce is manlier but harder to justify? Wit's just isn't good enough anymore. | ||
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Victolol
Germany46 Posts
Edit: Assuming that your jungler keeps ganking top of course. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
But for offensive item I'd say triforce most of the time, but I don't like offensive items on shen I'd rather just get tanky. Wits is okay, maybe if it's double AP but I've never felt particularly inclined towards it. Vs vladimir I'd just forget about offensive item, you really can't do that much more other than to get tanky and roam unless the lane is absurdly one sided from jungle help (We're tallking OMG vs TSM 0/10 dyrus vlad levels of it. Even then iirc gogoing went tanky) | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
If you can force enemy mobility the pillar is pretty good because even if you don't have the reflexes to cockblock a jump with it the obstruction+slow is enough to catch back up and stick with Q-spam. If you can't, well, the pillar should force it, and hopefully then you can prevent the enemy carry from going back in the fight since he won't have anything to jump back over the pillar. Also Trundle definitely doesn't pass the Gnar test at all if you try to lane him. Shen did feel clunky, but moreso because it can be hard to make sure to have both passive and Q ready to initiate a trade, without getting pushed in (since you can't decide not to use your passive), and because his energy costs don't really go away: other champions see both their costs go down and their "sustain" mechanic go up ('cept Lee but his is always available), but Shen only gets a meager boon from his passive at levels 7 and 13. At later levels where trades last longer and you can't just fall back and wait to regen energy it you really feel his limitations, let alone teamfights. (Being against mostly ranged champions and a Yi that game, I couldn't auto much to reduce the cd on the passive since Shen doesn't "stick" well, it's probably easier in other situations.) And yeah you usually don't build an offensive item until you've completed at least 2 major defensive items, since damage is just not your goal. But with a triforce or BotRK Shen's actually a very strong duelist against champions that don't rely on kiting him (so most ranged champions sadly) because he's so hard to kill, and spellblade or BotRK's passive give you non-scaling-reliant damage to complement your kit (since Shen's offensive scaling is pretty bad and mostly reliant on AS, while his base AD is good, and AS decent). But normally you don't need to be able to kill your opponent or force him to retreat, just to keep him busy while you splitpush then ult to your team, so it's not a priority. Also the current popularity of teleport works against him since there's always someone who can go in lane and still join their ult when you ult. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
mata back on twitch | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
edit: christ I wish they'd remove the shield from the tier2... At least get rid of the visual element, it's really annoying. | ||
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amaDeus
Germany205 Posts
i think its ridiculously broken. at least for soloqueue. i main lux and used to rush it after grail (or even before if the situation appears) and now with 5 stacks its even better. so strong on lux *-* | ||
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