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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 15 2014 01:34 GMT
#761
On November 15 2014 07:02 Alaric wrote:
Woad Ashe or bust.

Too bad no bust even without woad ashe
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 15 2014 01:43 GMT
#762
uh, did i miss the news that impaler and jesiz are playing for coast now?

http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/2015/expansion/teams/team-coast
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 15 2014 01:55 GMT
#763
Anyone want to play?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 15 2014 02:00 GMT
#764
On November 15 2014 10:43 Celial wrote:
uh, did i miss the news that impaler and jesiz are playing for coast now?

http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/2015/expansion/teams/team-coast

Yes you missed that
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 02:09:39
November 15 2014 02:04 GMT
#765
On November 15 2014 10:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Anyone want to play?


maybe. NA? I am in queue but would ditch

ed: Your summoner name appears to be out of date
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 02:21:43
November 15 2014 02:21 GMT
#766
Apparently that post was so old that I can't even edit it. Blah.

Can a mod maybe nuke this post of mine: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/271118-tl-summoner-list?page=9#180

so I can make a new one??

Also there aren't enough people right now I think... maybe after Tolkien comes back in ~1 hour or so.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 15 2014 02:27 GMT
#767
--- Nuked ---
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
November 15 2014 02:32 GMT
#768
You all suck at Ashe skins. Amethyst is best.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 03:45:06
November 15 2014 03:42 GMT
#769
On November 15 2014 11:32 Gahlo wrote:
You all suck at Ashe skins. Amethyst is best.

+1 for picking the only ashe skin I have.

Also people seem to have really, really thin skins in teambuilder q. Ask for ff20 after top dies twice in 10 minutes, afk after being killed by blitz in an invade as jungle because you didn't see them walk over a ward etc.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 15 2014 04:07 GMT
#770
Just played a Co-op game, had a player who was confused as to why shyvana did magic damage but had AD ratios, and was wondering if building AP was a good idea on her.

Players like these are why Riot are making the kits they're making now.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 05:22:59
November 15 2014 04:16 GMT
#771
On November 15 2014 13:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Just played a Co-op game, had a player who was confused as to why shyvana did magic damage but had AD ratios, and was wondering if building AP was a good idea on her.

Players like these are why Riot are making the kits they're making now.

It also doesn't help when their casters refer to magic damage as "AP damage" at times and the producers don't make them correct themselves.

e. man, Rumble is wonky as fuck.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
November 15 2014 05:26 GMT
#772
On November 15 2014 12:42 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 11:32 Gahlo wrote:
You all suck at Ashe skins. Amethyst is best.

+1 for picking the only ashe skin I have.

Also people seem to have really, really thin skins in teambuilder q. Ask for ff20 after top dies twice in 10 minutes, afk after being killed by blitz in an invade as jungle because you didn't see them walk over a ward etc.


Team builder is filled with people playing their mains who expect you to do the same. When I was getting my mage icon I found it to be the queue with highest expectations. Especially silly since it is a blind pick queue and hard counters are bound to happen.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 15 2014 07:10 GMT
#773
On November 15 2014 10:34 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 03:49 krndandaman wrote:
On November 15 2014 03:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 15 2014 03:27 krndandaman wrote:
If you only won 2 out of 25 games, chances are you made as much mistakes as your bad teammates.

Edit for clarity chances are you made more mistakes than your bad teammates.

People, if they are in the right elo average about 50% win rate. So the fact that you keep dropping indicates that you can't play at the level of your peers.


Well yeah, if you include not taking advantage of opponent's mistakes as a mistake of your own.

For example I had a friend who has a very safe playstyle and likes top lane. He always 'wins' lane but doesn't realize why he keeps losing. I look at his game for him and I point out that there were various opportunities to actually net a kill on his opponent to further snowball the lane or roam to help other lanes. Sitting top with a 10 cs advantage does nothing to help win. Did he make any mistakes? No, but technically yes for not taking advantage of all the opportunities presented to him. Yes he didn't do stupid shit like feed or not ward, but that alone doesn't win games.

It's something that many players, myself included, miss when trying to figure out the reason for losing because it's hard to see missed opportunities you weren't able to see in the first place.



if this is your experience and you go 2-23, you're not making mistakes, you're a statistical outlier and your experience is legitimately that of being dragged down by shitters. if you were plat 3 could you have carried that gold 3 game? yes. but if you go even/slightly ahaed top lane 25 out of 25 games and lose 23 of them, your teammates are jsut fucking bad.


it is anecdotally possible to go on a bad losing streak that legitimately is not your fault. the whole "if you were just 4 divisions better than your opponent you could have roamed and killed everyone" argument is just bullshit so stop repeating it.


I think krd is right, just winning lane then being a total passenger doesn't win games, you need to make plays, exploit your opportunities.

It's like if you scouted an opponents base in bw with your first two lings and he wasn't properly walled off, I don't give a shit if it's safer to not go up the Ramp, you do it every damn time. Shouldn't even be a question.

If your lane opponent wastes a spell on a minion, you force a trade. If your lane opponent overextends when he can't fight you, kill him. Even if he might be baiting you into a jungler, more often than not they just bad and dun goofed. Even lcs player's are bad and make errors in lane. Shouldn't even be a question. Besides, if you're a good player you usually have some inkling where they're jungle is regardless, and if he is pressuring you then your team can just abuse the 4 v 3 at Dragon.

If you're safely going +/-10 creeps every game then you aren't really having an impact. Staying even in lane doesn't win games, just stops you from losing horribly.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 07:37:55
November 15 2014 07:26 GMT
#774
Eh. i see their point though. If you lose 23 of 25 games, you are either an outlier, or inhibited in some way from playing at your skill level. Assuming the matchmaking actually works.


Either you are an outlier because you got carried far above your skill level

Or you are being dragged below your skill level by teammates (likely due to them playing too few games)

or you are playing much worse than you normally do. (due to drinking, stress, internet issues, drugs, ect)

OR you don't have many games played and the system is trying to find where you belong still. (only non-unusual case)

those are pretty more the only options unless we are adding :matchmaking is messing up and matching you out of your skill bracket.

saying "just play better" is a long term solution, but its not an explanation of the event.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 15 2014 08:44 GMT
#775
I think anything past 10 loss differential you really have some mental tilt issue going on.

That's roughly a 150 MMR loss assuming it was pretty streaky, and by 25 you're probably nearing the 500 range. It's much more of a mental issue than your teammates being bad. You simply played like shit.

While I've gotten full pages of losses before, they quickly fill up with wins as I recover mentally and just win like 10 straight to compensate.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
November 15 2014 08:47 GMT
#776
Sion #1 fun champion for solo ranked queue.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 12:11:17
November 15 2014 09:45 GMT
#777
On November 15 2014 17:47 739 wrote:
Sion #1 fun champion for solo ranked queue.

I don't like playing against sion, why does he always need to be saying all these mean things. So toxic :<

Yo smart people, who the fuck do you pick against gnar.
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 12:19:45
November 15 2014 12:17 GMT
#778
Ryze used to beat him very easily but no clue if he can after the nerfs.Irelia is really good vs him too.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 12:37:10
November 15 2014 12:36 GMT
#779
My biggest loss / win streaks have been 12 and 13 respectively. In completely different years and seasons mind you, not close together at all.

Weird shit happens (and denies you S2 gold fuck you riot)

Im sure those were bigger/better if we're doing out of X games instead of a streak but i dont remember that shit lel.
Useless wet fish.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
November 15 2014 13:01 GMT
#780
On November 15 2014 21:17 nafta wrote:
Ryze used to beat him very easily but no clue if he can after the nerfs.Irelia is really good vs him too.

Is Vlad strong enough to just sustain through lane?
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