• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:10
CET 16:10
KST 00:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League73Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Sagi.gg Launcher Released Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9628 users

[Patch 4.19] Singed Reborn General Discussion - Page 38

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 62 Next
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2014 20:42 GMT
#741
On November 15 2014 05:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 04:58 Ethelis wrote:
On November 15 2014 04:53 739 wrote:
On November 15 2014 04:29 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/store/sales/skins-still-vault-hours-being-stolen
Skins, double IP weekend (Starts on 28th), mass sales, giant skin bundles. TOXICITY

Damn, nothing worth buying :\


Take that back!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Nah Heartseeker is the best by far.

terrible tastes.
liftlift > tsm
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
November 14 2014 20:47 GMT
#742
On November 15 2014 05:16 Maluk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 05:15 NukeD wrote:
On November 15 2014 05:07 Maluk wrote:
On November 15 2014 05:01 chalice wrote:
the point is that people have serious misconceptions about their own level of play and their own responsibility for their losing streaks far more often than they are a statistical outlier with an extreme amount of bad teammates.

I think that the reverse is true as well. People will always tell you that if you're "stuck" somewhere it necessarily means that you suck when there is actually a chance that you're just getting unlucky.

Luck always goes hand to hand with skill in my experience.

So you're telling me someone who wins the lottery is more "skilled" at the lottery than other people ?

Yes thats exactly what I'm saying.
sorry for dem one liners
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 14 2014 20:52 GMT
#743
If you play a lot, 25 games is within the realm of reasonability for a streak. Since, while streaks are rare, they aren't that rare once you start taking a lot of samples

But, even within that. Its probably still more likely the fault lies with you.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 14 2014 20:54 GMT
#744
G2 vs new SKP now on http://www.hitbox.tv/challengerfaceoff

Jwoaw with Viktor top. For anybody interested.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2014 20:57 GMT
#745
Had like 15 game win steak before in normal games with pre-rework eve (post stun nerf eve). So anything is possible I suppose.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 14 2014 21:08 GMT
#746
stop being bad
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
November 14 2014 21:13 GMT
#747
On November 15 2014 05:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 05:31 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 15 2014 04:58 Ethelis wrote:
On November 15 2014 04:53 739 wrote:
On November 15 2014 04:29 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/store/sales/skins-still-vault-hours-being-stolen
Skins, double IP weekend (Starts on 28th), mass sales, giant skin bundles. TOXICITY

Damn, nothing worth buying :\


Take that back!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Nah Heartseeker is the best by far.

terrible tastes.


I can't hear you over the leftover RP i have from only spending 260
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 14 2014 21:22 GMT
#748
Well I got cool custom particles.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 14 2014 22:02 GMT
#749
Woad Ashe or bust.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 14 2014 22:27 GMT
#750
Is it just me or is it really hard to get teambuilder going as duo ? Even as botlane we waited almost 15 mins before giving up.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
November 14 2014 22:40 GMT
#751
On November 15 2014 07:27 Kenpark wrote:
Is it just me or is it really hard to get teambuilder going as duo ? Even as botlane we waited almost 15 mins before giving up.

Last night we had 4 people diamond/plat elo waiting 15 mins for a support then changed roles and waited another 10 for jungler. I figured team builder would have short wait times because of the new map but I was wrong
Moar banelings less qq
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 14 2014 22:45 GMT
#752
On November 15 2014 07:02 Alaric wrote:
Woad Ashe or bust.


I swear to god if you ever cross the channel i will ring your scrawny little neck young sir.
Useless wet fish.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
November 14 2014 22:59 GMT
#753
On November 15 2014 07:45 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 07:02 Alaric wrote:
Woad Ashe or bust.


I swear to god if you ever cross the channel i will ring your scrawny little neck young sir.

So tsundere
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 14 2014 23:00 GMT
#754
On November 15 2014 07:02 Alaric wrote:
Woad Ashe or bust.


Woad Aahe is OK, but no.

Heartseeker is ze best.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 14 2014 23:02 GMT
#755
If you want a duo going on teambuilder pick jungle and support. It's not like there's much of a choice, and that's the hilarious part about leveling as jungle Garen because the queue pops instantly, and people will accept you anyway because they've been waiting almost 10 minutes for a jungle to show up and not leave the queue upon waiting more than 30s for a support.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 14 2014 23:56 GMT
#756
--- Nuked ---
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
November 15 2014 00:05 GMT
#757
from my experience today not a lot of people are queueing up for top either, idk seemed weird to me, but i got supports faster than tops
normally top is by far second most wanted position

maybe they just want to see the rest of the map too :3


also the agony of always playing purple side is real
A backwards poet writes inverse.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 00:11:40
November 15 2014 00:10 GMT
#758
lol

BoxBox is playing vs the Item Active hackers and is winning sort of
They built full tank, so they can't clear waves, and BoxBox team is just going around pushing waves and stuff
Think it's too late though, looks like gg

Also he was using a Madoka Ashe custom skin earlier :O
Looked really good actually
And he built Manamune, CDR Boots, LW, BT hue
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 15 2014 00:42 GMT
#759
I really want to use that Madoka Ashe skin. I think it'll improve my game because the Q has some really distinctive particle/effect.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
November 15 2014 01:34 GMT
#760
On November 15 2014 03:49 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 03:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 15 2014 03:27 krndandaman wrote:
If you only won 2 out of 25 games, chances are you made as much mistakes as your bad teammates.

Edit for clarity chances are you made more mistakes than your bad teammates.

People, if they are in the right elo average about 50% win rate. So the fact that you keep dropping indicates that you can't play at the level of your peers.


Well yeah, if you include not taking advantage of opponent's mistakes as a mistake of your own.

For example I had a friend who has a very safe playstyle and likes top lane. He always 'wins' lane but doesn't realize why he keeps losing. I look at his game for him and I point out that there were various opportunities to actually net a kill on his opponent to further snowball the lane or roam to help other lanes. Sitting top with a 10 cs advantage does nothing to help win. Did he make any mistakes? No, but technically yes for not taking advantage of all the opportunities presented to him. Yes he didn't do stupid shit like feed or not ward, but that alone doesn't win games.

It's something that many players, myself included, miss when trying to figure out the reason for losing because it's hard to see missed opportunities you weren't able to see in the first place.



if this is your experience and you go 2-23, you're not making mistakes, you're a statistical outlier and your experience is legitimately that of being dragged down by shitters. if you were plat 3 could you have carried that gold 3 game? yes. but if you go even/slightly ahaed top lane 25 out of 25 games and lose 23 of them, your teammates are jsut fucking bad.


it is anecdotally possible to go on a bad losing streak that legitimately is not your fault. the whole "if you were just 4 divisions better than your opponent you could have roamed and killed everyone" argument is just bullshit so stop repeating it.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 62 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
21:00
WardiTV Mondays #110
IntoTheiNu 1221
WardiTV923
OGKoka 305
IndyStarCraft 204
Rex148
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko448
OGKoka 305
IndyStarCraft 204
Rex 148
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4347
BeSt 1326
EffOrt 823
Shuttle 659
Horang2 613
Soma 593
Mini 453
Light 362
Larva 354
Snow 303
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 271
ZerO 243
ggaemo 206
Soulkey 126
Rush 120
Zeus 110
Dewaltoss 89
Mind 85
Sharp 55
JYJ 41
Mong 38
Shinee 32
Terrorterran 31
Killer 29
Trap 28
ToSsGirL 27
Bishop 25
Hm[arnc] 22
Aegong 19
Sacsri 17
Shine 16
Sexy 16
sorry 15
Movie 14
zelot 14
yabsab 11
Dota 2
Gorgc17465
qojqva1443
syndereN247
BananaSlamJamma128
Counter-Strike
dupreeh503
byalli450
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr26
Other Games
singsing2389
B2W.Neo1311
hiko1274
Liquid`RaSZi1092
Beastyqt566
Pyrionflax283
crisheroes246
Mlord241
Hui .180
XaKoH 175
Liquid`VortiX144
RotterdaM110
Liquid`LucifroN66
QueenE38
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL32469
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1880
• WagamamaTV496
League of Legends
• Nemesis2125
• Jankos768
• TFBlade512
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
19h 50m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 18h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 19h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
4 days
Yamato Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
ShieldBattery League 1
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.