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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 12 2014 05:51 GMT
#561
the reason im going for vayne is because historically she hes the strongest 1v9 ability, if you manage to farm up

i want to play a snowbally champ that rewards me when im actually better than the other player, i dont just want to gain lp

its about the domination as much as the hard carrying

only other option that comes to mind is twitch...
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 12 2014 05:55 GMT
#562
On November 12 2014 14:51 Celial wrote:
the reason im going for vayne is because historically she hes the strongest 1v9 ability, if you manage to farm up

i want to play a snowbally champ that rewards me when im actually better than the other player, i dont just want to gain lp

its about the domination as much as the hard carrying

only other option that comes to mind is twitch...

That maybe happens like in 1 game out of 2000.
The only reason you think this shit happens is because people like DL, hiimgosu, uzi, etc etc. are a tier above whoever they're playing, and can getaway with it.
liftlift > tsm
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 06:23:51
November 12 2014 06:10 GMT
#563
On November 12 2014 14:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 14:51 Celial wrote:
the reason im going for vayne is because historically she hes the strongest 1v9 ability, if you manage to farm up

i want to play a snowbally champ that rewards me when im actually better than the other player, i dont just want to gain lp

its about the domination as much as the hard carrying

only other option that comes to mind is twitch...

That maybe happens like in 1 game out of 2000.
The only reason you think this shit happens is because people like DL, hiimgosu, uzi, etc etc. are a tier above whoever they're playing, and can getaway with it.


Going for Vayne simply for the 1v5 potential is like introducing jungle mechanics with master yi or top lane with tryndamere.

Every current ADC snowballs hard in the right hands. Seriously in terms of soloQ domination Occult Draven would probably be your best bet. Just buy sword of the occult on any ADC as first item and you'll be fine.

i wont deny Vayne being the best lane counter for lucian in the right hands tho
Stop procrastinating
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 06:58:18
November 12 2014 06:56 GMT
#564
On November 12 2014 14:51 Celial wrote:
the reason im going for vayne is because historically she hes the strongest 1v9 ability, if you manage to farm up

i want to play a snowbally champ that rewards me when im actually better than the other player, i dont just want to gain lp

its about the domination as much as the hard carrying

only other option that comes to mind is twitch...


If you're playing better than the other player, it doesn't matter what champ you are playing

My view is that Varus is best for learning ADC, because he has to utilise a mix of spell casting and AAing to get the most out of him. Lacking a mobility skill, he also teaches you how to position.

Most stylish ADCs (so you look good and feel like a boss when carrying) and Vayne and Draven. Both are a joy to watch when played well.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 12 2014 08:00 GMT
#565
On November 12 2014 14:51 Celial wrote:
the reason im going for vayne is because historically she hes the strongest 1v9 ability, if you manage to farm up

i want to play a snowbally champ that rewards me when im actually better than the other player, i dont just want to gain lp

its about the domination as much as the hard carrying

only other option that comes to mind is twitch...

Every AD will do that if you dominate lane/mid game hard enough. No need to pick vayne
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
November 12 2014 08:47 GMT
#566
On November 12 2014 14:51 Celial wrote:
the reason im going for vayne is because historically she hes the strongest 1v9 ability, if you manage to farm up

i want to play a snowbally champ that rewards me when im actually better than the other player, i dont just want to gain lp

its about the domination as much as the hard carrying

only other option that comes to mind is twitch...

Twitch is kind of always team depended to some extend, so I won't recommend him for an individual hard carry style. Vayne, Draven, Lucian and if you are an extremely good Ezreal, those are the adcs that can solo carry when fed & good with them imo
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
November 12 2014 10:43 GMT
#567
Lucian is still the strongest ad and will stay so until they nerf Q or the passive. Play him, he's easy and makes you win, what more would you want ?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2014 12:50 GMT
#568
Screw Lucian I am sticking with my Ashe tyvm.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 12 2014 13:26 GMT
#569
Debonair Ez, only way to ADC
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2014 15:04 GMT
#570
Heartseeker Ashe will have some words with you.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
November 12 2014 15:07 GMT
#571
if you're not learning to play adc with lucian/corki you are basically handicapping yourself, and if you are going to handicap yourself the people who say that you should play escapeless adcs like ashe/varus/mf to force yourself to learn to position better are probably right.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 12 2014 15:12 GMT
#572
after 7 games yesterday i decided i dont like vayne that much. i found that i like the idea of playing her, but not actually playing her.

next up, ezreal. always loved his mobile poke playstyle.

my plan to play 10 games on him today is severly hindered by the euw servers dying, though -.-
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 12 2014 15:16 GMT
#573
If you're learning ADC, go Lucian your first 20-30 games imo. Stronk laning and midgame, as long as you CS well and know how to position properly, you don't scale terrible in late game either.

From there, Caitlyn, then whatever ADC champ you feel fits your style. But there's really no reason for players playing ADC in solo q to not know how to play those two champs.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 15:19:20
November 12 2014 15:16 GMT
#574
I don't think Ashe teaches anything about positioning though. Ashe is about ducking in a corner until the enemy Malphite burns his ult on someone else.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 12 2014 15:24 GMT
#575
I love watching lower league players on Draven. So try him out.
Hey! How you doin'?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 12 2014 15:31 GMT
#576
When they gonna reset ladder stats?
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
November 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#577
On November 13 2014 00:16 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't think Ashe teaches anything about positioning though. Ashe is about ducking in a corner until the enemy Malphite burns his ult on someone else.

this is an important lesson to learn when you start out playing adc in solo queue.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 16:00:20
November 12 2014 15:37 GMT
#578
Eh, with his passive Lucian is still very strong late game too. Just RNG-double crit someone off of any of your spells and you've just either removed them from the fight or dealth 1/3 to 1/2 of a frontliner's HP. Just that burst (or at least the threat of it as it's "only" around a 1 in 6 chance with standard IE/ghostblade/LW build) is enough to make him relevant.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 12 2014 15:40 GMT
#579
On November 13 2014 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
If you're learning ADC, go Lucian your first 20-30 games imo. Stronk laning and midgame, as long as you CS well and know how to position properly, you don't scale terrible in late game either.

From there, Caitlyn, then whatever ADC champ you feel fits your style. But there's really no reason for players playing ADC in solo q to not know how to play those two champs.


Is lucian really good to learn? Won't you pick up bad habits as he's just strong at everything and has low CD mobility?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 12 2014 15:55 GMT
#580
On November 13 2014 00:40 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
If you're learning ADC, go Lucian your first 20-30 games imo. Stronk laning and midgame, as long as you CS well and know how to position properly, you don't scale terrible in late game either.

From there, Caitlyn, then whatever ADC champ you feel fits your style. But there's really no reason for players playing ADC in solo q to not know how to play those two champs.


Is lucian really good to learn? Won't you pick up bad habits as he's just strong at everything and has low CD mobility?

Granted going an ADC with a dash to one without will be a little daunting at first. But Lucian teaches newbs how to capitalize on mistakes first and foremost. His mobility and passive is what makes him so strong early and if the player learns how to consistently dominate with that kit, he can slowly take those training wheels off when he moves to other champ picks.

That's why I think it's more difficult to start off learning the ADC role with a pick like Ashe. I'm a big proponent of learning the OP stuff first then figuring out your own style from there.
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