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On November 13 2014 05:14 bmn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 05:04 iCanada wrote:On November 13 2014 04:48 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 13 2014 04:33 iCanada wrote:
Lol, they changed the Dragon bonus.
Now first Dragon gives you +8% ap / ad.
First Dragon decides every game now, apparently. Even on just base stats that's like 400 gold. O.o So are you willing to say that 100% of the time when the first team who kills dragon will then win the game? Or is this just hyperbole? Well, obviously not 100%, but in games gold or higher the first Dragon at 190 gold wins like 70 to 80% of games, increasing as you go higher in rank. Clearly now first Dragon will be just as if not more important if the 8% ad / ap goes through, seeing how it pretty well doubles it's value now. The statement "the first Dragon at 190 gold wins like 70 to 80% of games" is much, much weaker than the statement that they won because of Dragon. I would believe that the first team to take nexus turret is also strongly favored to win. This doesn't mean that the game was decided because they took the nexus turret, it's the other way around: They were probably taking the nexus turret because the game was already heavily in their favor before. If your statement was right, all I'd need to do to gain massive ELO would be to pick a jungler that can solo Dragon rapidly and always do that at the expense of anything else (e.g. neglecting lanes and team fights entirely). I doubt that'd get me anything near a 70-80% win rate. Since I play jungle Malz anyway, it'd not even be that hard to do... :-)
Well it does get you the highest winrate champion in the game at Diamond. /s
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond
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On November 13 2014 03:00 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 02:52 Prog wrote:
The real reason for Ashe as the first choice of an ADC is simply the 450 ip cost. So you don't lose much until you find out that the support does all the work anyway. 450 IP is nice. But Ashe is legit good.
And then Zed.
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On November 13 2014 07:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 03:00 Sufficiency wrote:On November 13 2014 02:52 Prog wrote:
The real reason for Ashe as the first choice of an ADC is simply the 450 ip cost. So you don't lose much until you find out that the support does all the work anyway. 450 IP is nice. But Ashe is legit good. And then Zed.
Honestly I never had much problem with Zed. I usually just go for my SotD build and pewpew him. It's incredibly fun to see Zed having an "oh shit" moment. Fizz is way more annoying to deal with IMO as far as assassins are concerned because I always mess up against a playful trickster.
I think I am more scared of things like Amumu and Malphite.
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On November 13 2014 05:55 Celial wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 05:14 bmn wrote:On November 13 2014 05:04 iCanada wrote:On November 13 2014 04:48 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 13 2014 04:33 iCanada wrote:
Lol, they changed the Dragon bonus.
Now first Dragon gives you +8% ap / ad.
First Dragon decides every game now, apparently. Even on just base stats that's like 400 gold. O.o So are you willing to say that 100% of the time when the first team who kills dragon will then win the game? Or is this just hyperbole? Well, obviously not 100%, but in games gold or higher the first Dragon at 190 gold wins like 70 to 80% of games, increasing as you go higher in rank. Clearly now first Dragon will be just as if not more important if the 8% ad / ap goes through, seeing how it pretty well doubles it's value now. The statement "the first Dragon at 190 gold wins like 70 to 80% of games" is much, much weaker than the statement that they won because of Dragon. I would believe that the first team to take nexus turret is also strongly favored to win. This doesn't mean that the game was decided because they took the nexus turret, it's the other way around: They were probably taking the nexus turret because the game was already heavily in their favor before. If your statement was right, all I'd need to do to gain massive ELO would be to pick a jungler that can solo Dragon rapidly and always do that at the expense of anything else (e.g. neglecting lanes and team fights entirely). I doubt that'd get me anything near a 70-80% win rate. Since I play jungle Malz anyway, it'd not even be that hard to do... :-) Well it does get you the highest winrate champion in the game at Diamond. /s http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond
rekt.
that being said, why the fuck is shaco so damn popular, ran into them twice in a row. I just wanted to murder babies.
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On November 13 2014 07:25 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 05:55 Celial wrote:On November 13 2014 05:14 bmn wrote:On November 13 2014 05:04 iCanada wrote:On November 13 2014 04:48 Zdrastochye wrote:On November 13 2014 04:33 iCanada wrote:
Lol, they changed the Dragon bonus.
Now first Dragon gives you +8% ap / ad.
First Dragon decides every game now, apparently. Even on just base stats that's like 400 gold. O.o So are you willing to say that 100% of the time when the first team who kills dragon will then win the game? Or is this just hyperbole? Well, obviously not 100%, but in games gold or higher the first Dragon at 190 gold wins like 70 to 80% of games, increasing as you go higher in rank. Clearly now first Dragon will be just as if not more important if the 8% ad / ap goes through, seeing how it pretty well doubles it's value now. The statement "the first Dragon at 190 gold wins like 70 to 80% of games" is much, much weaker than the statement that they won because of Dragon. I would believe that the first team to take nexus turret is also strongly favored to win. This doesn't mean that the game was decided because they took the nexus turret, it's the other way around: They were probably taking the nexus turret because the game was already heavily in their favor before. If your statement was right, all I'd need to do to gain massive ELO would be to pick a jungler that can solo Dragon rapidly and always do that at the expense of anything else (e.g. neglecting lanes and team fights entirely). I doubt that'd get me anything near a 70-80% win rate. Since I play jungle Malz anyway, it'd not even be that hard to do... :-) Well it does get you the highest winrate champion in the game at Diamond. /s http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond rekt. that being said, why the fuck is shaco so damn popular, ran into them twice in a row. I just wanted to murder babies.
Who doesn't want to play as The Joker?!?!?!?!
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Canada6223 Posts
Well put it this way,
Ban, Play With, Play Against
Teemo, Shaco, Master Yi.
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Jek Denmark. October 31 2014 07:28
I suffer from a bipolar mood disorder and PTSD, so I can somewhat relate to it. I wouldn't put your ADHD on your stream info. Rather be open about it if anyone brings it up in stream chat. When I streamed all my arams it wasn't hard to get ~20 viewers consistently, and the viewers quickly figured it out on their own; guess the difference between a depressive phase and mania phase me is quite noticable.
The reason I'd advice against putting it up front, is that the internet is filled with hateful little twats that will jump on someone whenever they get the chance. If you have it in your info, you could very well end up banning a large number of your first viewers. Besides, you want them to watch you because you are you, not just because you got ADHD - if that makes sense.
Thanks for the response Jek not sure if you gonna see this but I will take that into consideration
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On November 13 2014 07:46 Lmui wrote:
Well put it this way,
Ban, Play With, Play Against
Teemo, Shaco, Master Yi.
Doesn't fit me, I want to play as all three.
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For the new jungle assuming everything stays as it is in PBE you guys think Riven Jungle would be really good? The Warrior Enchantment is really good on her as she needs every stat from it the AD, the Armor Pen, and CDR. I thinking with Skirmisher’s Sabre she will be able to out duel anyone and once she gets her first wave cleared she will be fine because of her shield and the stun plus knock up. Any other thoughts on Riven Jungle in the new Jungle?
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Does anyone know when the changes are going thru?
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On November 13 2014 04:33 iCanada wrote:
Lol, they changed the Dragon bonus.
Now first Dragon gives you +8% ap / ad.
First Dragon decides every game now, apparently. Even on just base stats that's like 400 gold. O.o
i mean i said this earlier, no one listened to me. lol
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So supposedly new SR is live on NA now in bot games and in Team Builder games.
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On November 13 2014 10:17 Kinie wrote:
So supposedly new SR is live on NA now in bot games and in Team Builder games.
Awesome, I'm gonna check this out right away.
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Felt the same gameplay-wise. Thought the new jungle was rolled out, but patch seemed way too small for that.
Dragon HURTS now though wtf.
Looks puuuuurty. Feel like I'm watching my friend play DoTA.
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Has the camera angle changed in new SR yet?
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On November 13 2014 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:
For the new jungle assuming everything stays as it is in PBE you guys think Riven Jungle would be really good? The Warrior Enchantment is really good on her as she needs every stat from it the AD, the Armor Pen, and CDR. I thinking with Skirmisher’s Sabre she will be able to out duel anyone and once she gets her first wave cleared she will be fine because of her shield and the stun plus knock up. Any other thoughts on Riven Jungle in the new Jungle?
It's a slight improvement, since Warrior/Skrimish is stronger than Lizard on her with 0 dead gold. It'll all depend on how well she can sustain through the jungle without lifesteal if we're talking about meta builds. I guess with the brutalizer rolled into Warrior that it makes Hydra more palatable to buy though. Time will tell.
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Hydra was always a pretty good buy on Riven, to the point of it being a near must-buy due to the hp regen on it after they gutted her hp/5.
Played a game on new SR, it looks pretty. Dragon hurts like a mofo, and the knockback aoe thing he does when he wakes up is annoying, but otherwise not a big waste of time. Didn't get a chance to kill Baron, but other than it looking very imposing it didn't seem to do any more damage than it previously would have.
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On November 13 2014 13:25 Kinie wrote:
Hydra was always a pretty good buy on Riven, to the point of it being a near must-buy due to the hp regen on it after they gutted her hp/5.
Played a game on new SR, it looks pretty. Dragon hurts like a mofo, and the knockback aoe thing he does when he wakes up is annoying, but otherwise not a big waste of time. Didn't get a chance to kill Baron, but other than it looking very imposing it didn't seem to do any more damage than it previously would have.
Still at work, haven't had chance to play on it yet, how do some of the more outdated character models look on the new SR? they didn't stick out like a sore thumb did they?
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On November 13 2014 13:25 Kinie wrote:
Hydra was always a pretty good buy on Riven, to the point of it being a near must-buy due to the hp regen on it after they gutted her hp/5.
Played a game on new SR, it looks pretty. Dragon hurts like a mofo, and the knockback aoe thing he does when he wakes up is annoying, but otherwise not a big waste of time. Didn't get a chance to kill Baron, but other than it looking very imposing it didn't seem to do any more damage than it previously would have.
Well yeah but considering we're talking about jungle Riven, Hydra its pretty outside of the meta jungle build. The fact that you're stuck with a jungle item really clutters her inventory.
On November 13 2014 13:50 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 13:25 Kinie wrote:
Hydra was always a pretty good buy on Riven, to the point of it being a near must-buy due to the hp regen on it after they gutted her hp/5.
Played a game on new SR, it looks pretty. Dragon hurts like a mofo, and the knockback aoe thing he does when he wakes up is annoying, but otherwise not a big waste of time. Didn't get a chance to kill Baron, but other than it looking very imposing it didn't seem to do any more damage than it previously would have. Still at work, haven't had chance to play on it yet, how do some of the more outdated character models look on the new SR? they didn't stick out like a sore thumb did they?
They've been tossing texture touchups on the PBE for dozens of champions over the last few patches. They just never get pushed.
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