EPT[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 111
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 28 2014 10:19 wei2coolman wrote: lol, his pre-TSM numbers were like maybe 3k-5k, might of peaked at 10k before. I would say qtpie is more successful solo streamer. I think people came cause of the TSM tag and stayed because the stream was entertaining OddOne's streaming success makes sense cause ever since he stopped competing he put in ridiculous hours. I think he's one of the pros that manages to be entertaining but also tries to explain what he's doing/why he's doing things. Doesn't hurt that there aren't a ton of pro jungle mains that stream on a regular basis. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 28 2014 13:01 Parametric wrote: I stopped watching TOO for awhile, every time i'd tune in he seemed super sad =( he seems a lot more cheery now and he plays other games when streaming which is nice imo although it probably hurts his average viewer count. I feel like he's tryna branch out so if he ever becomes league irrelevant there will be people who are willing to watch him play Civ or whatnot | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 28 2014 12:42 krndandaman wrote: so basically its LCS. ugh tournament mode was so hype it was, but it's also very bad for the progamers who aren't on SKT/KT/Samsung. Tourney format meant that if your team gets knocked out, you're literally doing nothing until NLB starts. Then once you get knocked out of that, you're done for the season. Low-mid tier teams would spent as much or more time twiddling their thumbs as they did playing. This meant low-mid tier teams would have much less opportunity to improve since they're not playing nearly as much as the top tier teams. New format lets low-mid tier teams keep playing throughout the season. Plus, the reserve league means that former sister teams (should) still exist as they can play in that league. So the fact that the number of teams in Champions is being cut in half doesn't necessarily mean half of the pros from last season will be jobless. My completely unsubstantiated guess is that this is ideally a transition period for Korean LoL. While Kespa, OGN, and RiotKorea look for more sponsors for former sister teams, the reserve league gives them something to do and keep getting paid. Once there are more sponsors that can actually support their own team, maybe we'll see an expansion in the number of teams for Champions. | ||
GTR
51706 Posts
Honestly, if Riot didn't have much of an influence, it would have been best to have OGN/SPOTV/KeSPA/GOMeXP doing their own stuff together, but whatever. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I mean come on, if a team can play only 3 games in group stage and be done for an entire freaking season is a broken system. Also, like I have said before, BW used to run proleagues which are really no different from the LCS format. BW had OSL/MSL too, but that's difficult to replicate in LoL which plays in a group of 5. | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
On October 28 2014 14:19 Ryuu314 wrote: Plus, the reserve league means that former sister teams (should) still exist as they can play in that league. So the fact that the number of teams in Champions is being cut in half doesn't necessarily mean half of the pros from last season will be jobless. Prretty sure that any pro who thinks he's actually good at this game would rather leave Korea and go play matches that have an actual meaning elsewhere than stay to play in the consolation league. The smart ones will leave as soon as their team confirms that they won't be on the main roster (if there are spots left in other countries, which is the difficult and the sad part). On a side note, I was sad for Kakao and friends leaving Korea but now that I see this I'm actually hapy for them ; all of these players who are leaving will get to play real matches 100% guaranteed, on top of the fact that they are getting better conditions than in Korea. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 28 2014 11:19 cLutZ wrote: Why? Oddone is legitimately clever and was actually a successful player. QT just trolls around. We're talking about Twitch streams, though. Also TOO's antics are a bit particular and sometimes just veiled QQ at his team, while Qtpie never gives a fuck and has the same broad grin even when he facepalms at what a teammate does (on top of being more proficient mechanically) and he plays around Twitch chat memes more, so I'd expect him to garner a very loyal fanbase too (and a larger one at that). Then again pr0lly is overall well-liked, but if he streamed I guess we'd see a small core of dedicated fans while the general public wouldn't notice him. I'm not too big a fan of Pobelter's stream when I have it on. His banter with Scarra on TS while he watches Scarra's stream though is hilarious. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
I wish sodapoppin played league. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 28 2014 15:58 Sufficiency wrote: The tournament format is OK, but should only be used as a supplement to a regular proleague style format. The existing Korean OGN format was fundamentally broken by strongly favouring strong teams who can advance past the group stage and play more games. I mean come on, if a team can play only 3 games in group stage and be done for an entire freaking season is a broken system. Also, like I have said before, BW used to run proleagues which are really no different from the LCS format. BW had OSL/MSL too, but that's difficult to replicate in LoL which plays in a group of 5. in BW a player could only play 3 games and be done for the whole season in proleague. I mean, LCS has a huge mess of problems. a step toward LCS without addressing them is a step backwards. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
 It was so fun to watch him again on Aphroo's stream when they played ranked 5s! Such a laid back and positive stream, his was. Not many supp players stream anyway. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Inhib towers get super laz0r with up to 100% armor pen, so to break into highground you need a big minion wave and baron buff that gives the minions damage reduction. Its like they feel sorry for EU performance this season and change the game for the stall gameplay | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On October 28 2014 21:55 LaNague wrote: season 5 changes seem silly? Inhib towers get super laz0r with up to 100% armor pen, so to break into highground you need a big minion wave and baron buff that gives the minions damage reduction. Its like they feel sorry for EU performance this season and change the game for the stall gameplay Maybe its more about the fact that very high percent of the games are one sided stomps, regardless of the elo. I mean in different elos the reasons leading to stomps are different but at the end a stomp is a stomp. So my guess is that riot tries to make the games more back and forward with more chances for comebacks. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 28 2014 22:05 M2 wrote: Maybe its more about the fact that very high percent of the games are one sided stomps, regardless of the elo. I mean in different elos the reasons leading to stomps are different but at the end a stomp is a stomp. So my guess is that riot tries to make the games more back and forward with more chances for comebacks. Which is very sad.It's like riot want to make league like hots where you are 20 kills up and it doesn't really do much lol. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
if you take any of the themed changes one at a time into the game, none of them hurt the game much at all and many of them could be seen as an improvement, but all together just seems like a clusterfuck. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 28 2014 22:20 PrinceXizor wrote: It feels like Riot delegated way too much with the PBE changes. like they had someone working on Towers + defense, one team working on the jungle, one team working on items, one team working on heroes and kills. and none of them communicated enough with eachother. par for the course On October 28 2014 22:05 M2 wrote: Maybe its more about the fact that very high percent of the games are one sided stomps, regardless of the elo. I mean in different elos the reasons leading to stomps are different but at the end a stomp is a stomp. So my guess is that riot tries to make the games more back and forward with more chances for comebacks. Comeback opportunities should be taken, not given. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
In fact, part of the reason for some of the PBE changes was to remove the invisible comeback mechanics that were in the game already, like catchup jungle XP and reduced first blood gold. I still think that vision relics, scuttle crab, and tower shields are weird and overly complicated though. I can forgive the complexity of the other jungle changes mainly because I think they add something to the game. | ||
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