EPT[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 100
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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benefluence
United States158 Posts
On October 25 2014 02:50 krndandaman wrote: doesn't oppression not work with frozen heart? it says impaired movement and frozen heart doesn't impair movement. You'd think that, but Riot has never been very good about coding things like this in a way that coincides with expectations. FH applies Oppression, because AS slows and MS slows aren't very well differentiated in Riot code. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
That would have been a good thing to test a year ago, if we were actually a serious forum that did things like that! | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 25 2014 01:49 Ketara wrote: Yes, and HP regen only gives you anything after taking damage anyway. Banshee's raw stats are straight up better. Note that Banshee's defensive stats SHOULD be better than SV's, because SV gives 10% CDR. If SV really were arguably better than Banshee at 0 CDR, it would be a super overpowered item that everybody would buy over Banshee all of the time (like it used to be before nerfs) More like stuff like LB and Nidalee became popular again around the time of the SV nerf (not sure Nid, but especially LB, and later Syndra), and the Banshee's Veil shield is really important against combo mages and "fishermen" like them. Banshee's stats are better than SV regardless, but had these picks become popular again a bit earlier, you'd still have seen marksmen and other squishies go for Banshee's over SV. I'd actually argue that SV needs to be better than Banshee's, because of how powerful (and most importantly, general) the spell shield is, if they are to cost the same then SV must either have better raw stat (don't even show me that 25 hp5 regen, we all know mana/mp5/hp5 are grossly overvaluated outside of early game and a few edge cases), or its passives must be much stronger than Banshee's in the cases it's actually useful. 10% CDR is nowhere near cutting it. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:00 Ketara wrote: Don't know whether or not Oppression works with FH. That would have been a good thing to test a year ago, if we were actually a serious forum that did things like that! It's super easy to test. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:11 Alaric wrote: You don't even play Heimer anymore. pfffff PFFFFFF new heimer is amazing and I love him | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
If they cant, i guess i just have to keep listening to the fighting, cause mutings not worth if u cant tell them what to do.  | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: pfffff PFFFFFF new heimer is amazing and I love him new heimer is the one champion i just cannot play against. he's just the antifun incarnate. its infuriating. i'd rather every match start with 12 teemo shrooms randomly distributed around the map. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:22 Gaslo wrote: If i mute someone, can they see what i write? I usually play jungle while ignoring all when ever someone starts crying, but i've started to notice they dont react to anything i write after that... Like "Rengar mid in 10 seconds topside brush" and 5seconds later my my mid walks to that brush and stuff like that. If they cant, i guess i just have to keep listening to the fighting, cause mutings not worth if u cant tell them what to do. Pretty sure they can't see. | ||
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:08 krndandaman wrote: Wait, real? Does anyone want to test it? I can hop on cause I'm genuinely curious now. It's a well known interaction with oppression. | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:09 Frolossus wrote: jumping on the malz + banner of command wagon i play a fairly effective malz build in normals, every now and again. ap runes, ad masteries. tear, banner of command, manamune. this build is REALLY fun to play. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 25 2014 02:32 wei2coolman wrote: Frozen fist Ryze is what real Ryze players build. Always chase, never not chase. The sad part is that honestly, it's probably a more efficient buy on Ryze than almost any other champion in the game, yet you'd be called a troll if you built it because he has other options that are just better. I could actually see it being good on him. Obviously FH probably better, but... God that champ is dumb. On a different note, holy crap I miss AP sion. Rito said he was two champs and wanted to fix that, but they only have us the stupid crappy ad sion. I want that early game monster who builds flat ap and is a huge threat by running at things with dfg up back. Honestly, ap sion was probably my favorite mid laner. Rito pls, can I have ap sion? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:35 iCanada wrote: The sad part is that honestly, it's probably a more efficient buy on Ryze than almost any other champion in the game, yet you'd be called a troll if you built it because he has other options that are just better. I could actually see it being good on him. Obviously FH probably better, but... God that champ is dumb. On a different note, holy crap I miss AP sion. Rito said he was two champs and wanted to fix that, but they only have us the stupid crappy ad sion. I want that early game monster who builds flat ap and is a huge threat by running at things with dfg up back. Honestly, ap sion was probably my favorite mid laner. Rito pls, can I have ap sion? The biggest issue with FF ryze, is that his animation and attack speed is painfully slow, so he can't make good use of proc weaving. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'd tell you to stream it then, but Asmo's busy. So... till next time. I've only seen you on Annie (missing Tibbers), Viktor, and you've said you played Cass recently. Been playing a bit of Braum as my secondary support, when I noticed people don't ban him anymore and since my Thresh is horrible (then again I still miss a fair number of Mundo cleavers and Braum Qs >>), been doing pretty well so far. Decent picks when you have 2+ champs with you to trigger his passive quickly. I'd do alot better in lane if I didn't mess up using W and E in conjunction or trying to E while retreating, and ending up facing opposite to the enemy, but he's actually manfighting pretty well once he gets in, although it depends alot on the ADs when they have Thresh since he's got more (and more reliable) cc, and his shield vs how much damage you can reduce through E. I'm not sure which match-ups are hard so far, Janna's prob annoying but that's because she's a dick to anyone who doesn't have poke and/or sustain, and looking at match-ups more specific to Braum... Also had the better AD most of these lanes, which played a lot in making up for the match-ups, and people got caught up in fights too easily (including a Janna, who'd try to fight if I caught her while she harassed, instead of disengaging... we won). He feels a lot weaker without his ult in terms of impact on a fight, but the ult itself doesn't feel that strong when using it because of how slow it is at longer ranges. Can't use it for picks, kinda hard to use when retreating because of the cast time and sidestepping they can do during it, etc. I'm probably playing him wrong anyway. But being used to Lulu and Leona, his passive being delayed doesn't help me realise how many people I got cc'd, nor if the timing was helpful. Maybe relic shield -> sightstone + boots -> face -> boots2 isn't the best opener either. On October 25 2014 03:24 PrinceXizor wrote: new heimer is the one champion i just cannot play against. he's just the antifun incarnate. its infuriating. i'd rather every match start with 12 teemo shrooms randomly distributed around the map. It's like you didn't played in s2 when Anivia/Lux/TF were popular and stuff like Syndra or Ziggs didn't exist. Or, well, Ziggs at all for that matter. About FH I think they changed AS slows so Highlander doesn't work on them anymore? Amusing bit about Garen's passive though. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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